Joshua vs Ortiz next?

[joseph5620]

The bigger question is which elite fighter/champion/contender outside of Deontay Wilder ever gave him an opportunity? Anthony Joshua had an opportunity to challenge him but didn't. Wladimir Klitschko had an opportunity to challenge him but didn't. Tyson Fury and Dillian Whyte both had opportunities but didn't give him a chance. So the list goes on and on but to this day, every elite championship contender and titleholder continue to avoid and duck this man. Why?

That pretty much sums it up. No one is lining up to fight him. Not even when he's the mandatory. Wilder did step up and fight him. Joshua didn't when it mattered and no way is he going to fight him now. Too much risk.

[joseph5620]

lol this hyping up or Ortiz has really gotten out of hand. Who did he ever beat to get this kind of hype anyway. Bryant Jennings? Tony Thompson? Povetkin hits just as hard as Ortiz and Klitschko much harder and Joshua beat both of them.

Those are just subjective opinions. There is nothing that measures punching or anything to suggest 41 year old Kiltschko hits much harder than Ortiz. Maybe you can ask Bryant Jennings who went the distance with an old Kiltschko but was brutally stopped by Ortiz. That's the only opinion that would matter.

Joshua didn't want to fight Ortiz when Ortiz was the mandatory. He's not going to get credit for beating Ortiz without actually doing it.

[pillowfists98]

Those are just subjective opinions. There is nothing that measures punching or anything to suggest 41 year old Kiltschko hits much harder than Ortiz. Maybe you can ask Bryant Jennings who went the distance with an old Kiltschko but was brutally stopped by Ortiz. That's the only opinion that would matter.

Joshua didn't want to fight Ortiz when Ortiz was the mandatory. He's not going to get credit for beating Ortiz without actually doing it.

Ortiz could have fought Joshua but he abandoned his WBA mandatory position when he signed with Haymon who promised him a shot at Wilder. And Luis Ortiz does not hit harder than Klitschko, no way. You can believe that I guess but I think 99% of people who watch boxing would disagree.

[joseph5620]

Ortiz could have fought Joshua but he abandoned his WBA mandatory position when he signed with Haymon who promised him a shot at Wilder. And Luis Ortiz does not hit harder than Klitschko, no way. You can believe that I guess but I think 99% of people who watch boxing would disagree.

Not really. Joshua did nothing to show he wanted the fight and Ortiz was not going to wait around for him when other opportunities were presented. He made the right choice and world have been foolish to pass up opportunities waiting on Joshua who showed no interest.

You can keep repeating that 41 year old Klitschko punched much harder than Ortiz but it's nothing more than your opinion. Go find the 99 percent of people that watch boxing to prove your claim that they agree with
you and we'll find out if that's true.

[pillowfists98]

Not really. Joshua did nothing to show he wanted the fight and Ortiz was not going to wait around for him when other opportunities were presented. He made the right nice and world have been foolish to pass up opportunities waiting on Joshua.

You can keep repeating that 41 year old Klitschko punched much harder than Ortiz but it's nothing more than your opinion. Go find the 99 percent of people that watch boxing to prove your claim that they agree with and we'll find out if that's true.

I"ll make a poll.

[The3]

- Wilder/Fury winner has the belt
- Whyte win over Parker > Ortiz win over Cojanu
- Kubrat Pulev/ Hughie Fury will be mandatory

[boxingking123]

Joshua vs Wilder needs to happen next. Neither of them are big enough to keep milking lesser opponents like Mayweather and Pacquiao did.

[joseph5620]

I"ll make a poll.

You can make all the polls you want. They are never going to represent the 99 percent of boxing fans you claimed.

[SN!PER]

Why fight killer Ortiz when he can fight Whyte, Kownacki, or the Chinese guy.

[yammy25]

How long was Ortiz was supposed to wait for his opportunity? That was the main reason why he signed with Matchroom in the first place to get his title shot at Joshua. He waited for Klitschko, then he was expected to wait for several more months after Joshua's IBF mandatory defense. I can't blame him for leaving Matchroom for an instant shot at the WBC title from the PBC.

So why blame AJ and Hearn for boxing politics that's been around for years?

First you state it was because he CHOSE takam.. which is rubbish..and by the way it was Pulev who was injured causing takam to come in. That fight was a necessity as the IBF had ruled that if Klitschko 2 did not happen then AJ MUST fight his IBF mandatory or be stripped. The WBA allowed this as he had just won the super belt.

He then faced off in a unification against Parker.. but I guess a champion unifying against a champion isn't as good as facing Ortiz in a wilder fans eyes.

The simple fact is mandatories are what they are... And whilst nobody blames Ortiz for jumping to Haymon for an immediate title shot, he still failed a drugs test and cemented himself as a cheat..and AJ wasn't to blame for that .

The fact wilder fans moan so much about drug cheats and everyone on drugs cos they don't wana fight wilder.. yet they'll happily push for AJ to fight both well known HW ped cheats back to back is laughable.

That's fanboyism .. not being a fan of pugilism