Joshua vs Ortiz next?

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  • PotentialToast
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    #111
    I think AJ going Unification - Mandatory - Unification - Mandatory means he can't be criticised for his opponent selection. If not Wilder in April , then Whyte would get rid of the possible WBO mandatory (which they said they were going to call after the Povetkin fight) as he will also have Pulev / H Fury coming down the track.

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    • Laligalaliga
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      #112
      Originally posted by LacedUp
      Why didn't either of those guys run the division when they were in their prime then?
      Good question bro.

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        #113
        Originally posted by champion4ever
        He was AJ's mandatory for the WBA title; Don't you remember? Right after AJ fought and won his title belts against Wladimir Klitschko. He had an option to either defend his IBF title against Carlos Takam or defend his WBA title against Luis Ortiz instead; but yet he chose the former Carlos Takam. Which set up the Wilder WBC title shot because Joshua refused to challenge him at the time.
        You don't have adequate knowledge of what you write.

        Takam was a late replacement for pulev after he had injury prior before the fight.

        It's no AJ's fault WBA removed Ortiz from their ranking.

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        • Laligalaliga
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          #114
          Originally posted by champion4ever
          How long was Ortiz was supposed to wait for his opportunity? That was the main reason why he signed with Matchroom in the first place to get his title shot at Joshua. He waited for Klitschko, then he was expected to wait for several more months after Joshua's IBF mandatory defense. I can't blame him for leaving Matchroom for an instant shot at the WBC title from the PBC.
          So tell me, how long should breazeale wait to get a shot and long would whyte have waited if he had followed the wbc route?

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          • Laligalaliga
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            #115
            Originally posted by champion4ever
            We fights fans can only wish. That fight will never happen because it's too risky of a fight for Anthony Joshua. It's just your prototypical high risk/low reward fight.

            Ortiz is just too exceptional for his own good but he's still relatively unknown which is of no fault of his own; Because he is and still remains the bogey man of the heavyweight division. Everybody is afraid of fighting this guy for the exception of Deontay Wilder.

            Furthermore, he has no leverage or cards over AJ; In terms of titles or new fans in order to bring Joshua or even other contenders to the bargaining table.
            Lolx... How funny you sound... If everybody has been avoiding him, who has he been fighting all these while? In his so called prime, who was he fighting?

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              #116
              Originally posted by Laligalaliga
              I don't think I have any other thing to say to you since you think the #1man in the sport has no balls to face a HBP patient, am done with you bro.

              Do you think being #1 is by inheritance? The brother fought himself to that position you coward.
              I believe that he is deliberately holding the titles hostage by not challenging the best, most dangerous and riskiest opponents out there. He refuses to become the undisputed champion of the world.

              In addition, it just goes to show that he has a lack of self-confidence and fear. Now as far as Luis Ortiz is concerned; He would've fared much better than the cherry pick Alexander Povetkin. Who was chosen only to avoid fighting Wilder.

              He is bigger, stronger, punches harder, has a better defense, chin, reflexes and stamina. That's why Joshua is avoiding and ducking him.

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              • Laligalaliga
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                #117
                Originally posted by Deontay Wilder
                Why fight killer Ortiz when he can fight Whyte, Kownacki, or the Chinese guy.
                Lolx.... A prime Ortiz was fighting bums.... What makes him killer?

                Wilder KO a HBP patient. That's all I can make up for the fight.

                AJ will send him to retirement.

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                • Laligalaliga
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by champion4ever
                  I believe that he is deliberately holding the titles hostage by not challenging the best, most dangerous and riskiest opponents out there. He refuses to become the undisputed champion of the world.

                  In addition, it just goes to show that he has a lack of self-confidence and fear. Now as far as Luis Ortiz is concerned; He would've fared much better than the cherry pick Alexander Povetkin. Who was chosen only to avoid fighting Wilder.

                  He is bigger, stronger, punches harder, has a better defense, chin, reflexes and stamina. That's why Joshua is avoiding and ducking him.
                  For crying out loud, podvetkin was a mandatory which has to be fulfilled. Wilder has nothing fought any mandatory is almost 3yrs, so tell me who is holding the title hostage?

                  Wilder has been a champion for about 3yrs with 50mil in his pocket, he never made any attempt to be unified champ thereby holding the green belt r and some.

                  You keep exposing wilder and youself for every point you try to raise.

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                  • Laligalaliga
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                    I would actually respect Joshua and Dillian Shyte if either one fought Ortiz next.

                    But of course we know they won't.
                    You should advocate for wilder/whyte. That's wilder fighting a live body not a HBP patient or a rehab patient.

                    Bro. Be wise.

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                      #120
                      Originally posted by Laligalaliga
                      You should advocate for wilder/whyte. That's wilder fighting a live body not a HBP patient or a rehab patient.

                      Bro. Be wise.
                      Wilder/Whyte could be next in the queue if only Whyte didn't run away from Luis Ortiz.

                      Open your eyes, Hearn is avoiding the risky fights for his guys.

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