Reminder: Pedvetkin wasn't that good.

[TheCell8]

What is Pedvetkin's best performance? Same with Parker? Whyte?

Luis Ortiz destroyed top 10 Jennings coming off a 12 rounder with Wlad.

Pedvetkin went life and death with Chagaev, Takam, and Huck.
He's closer to Stiverne in class.

Parker arguably lost to Hughie Fury who is ranked like 20th, and struggled with Andy Ruiz too.

Whyte had a razor thin fight with Chisora.

Not a single one of them looked as impressive as Ortiz did against top 10 Jennings.

lol Jennings went 12 rounds with Mike Perez, and Povetkin dusted him in like a minute.

[TheCell8]

Ortiz destroyed Jennings who was ranked in the top 4 and as low as 2 against Wlad whom he went 12 with.

Ortiz out performed Pulev & Takam against Thompson.

Ortiz out performed Chisora against Scott.

Did much better than Parker did against Cojanu, did better than Whyte against Allen.

Neither Parker, Whyte, or Pedvetkin have had a single performance over a top 10 HW like Ortiz did against Jennings.

You do realize that Chisora stopped Malik Scott right?

You do realize that Jennings had a very close fight with Mike Perez who Povetkin dusted in 1 round.

If we're talking solid victories. Does Jennings have a meaningful win outside of Artur Szpilka?

If Luis Ortiz's biggest victory is knocking out a guy who got a SD over Mike Perez, who beat Artur Szpilka and lost a 12 round fight against Klitschko, that is a really, really low bar.

[Mr Objecitivity]

The best win of his career is coming back from a 4-0 deficit to Carlos Takam similar to what a past it Dereck Chisora recently did.

He's coming off a fight where he got dropped by David Price, and previously went the distance with two journeymen level fighters.

Reminder:
Luis Ortiz is better, Wilder is better, Fury is better.


Wilder will hurt that man, I can guarantee you that.

No, Povetkin wasn't that good as a heavyweight because he's been a blown up light heavyweight competing at heavyweight for all his career.

However, his skills have to be good. Considering he only lost twice, to two of the best heavyweights of their respective eras, with a huge size disadvantage. If his skills weren't good, he would have more losses and would've lost in more devastating fashion to Joshua and Wladimir Klitschko.

[NearHypnos]

Ortiz destroyed Jennings who was ranked in the top 4 and as low as 2 against Wlad whom he went 12 with.

Ortiz out performed Pulev & Takam against Thompson.

Ortiz out performed Chisora against Scott.

Did much better than Parker did against Cojanu, did better than Whyte against Allen.

Neither Parker, Whyte, or Pedvetkin have had a single performance over a top 10 HW like Ortiz did against Jennings.

So let’s get this straight.

Beating a guy in his last fight (Thompson) better than others did before him counts? Dude hadnt beat anyone but Solis in years and was coming off a loss.

Beating Jennings...also off a loss. Lets remind the world of Jennings best win as well. A SD win he got over Mike Perez thanks to a point deduction in the 11th or 12th round for hitting on the break despite it being at the same time as the ref was coming.

Povetkin starched Perez in one round.


Povetkin beat Takam.

Povetkin beat Chagaev who was also a top ten guy for years.


We dont have to make the case for Povetkin beating a guy better than someone else because he actually fought guys.

Marco Huck moving up a class as the legit champ in his division was a great win AND fight.

Get real man. Povetkin has had a better amateur career and pro career than Ortiz.

So ortiz beat Thompson better than Takam.

Lets just give him p4p status over it.

I’m a big fan of Ortiz mind you, but it’s nowhere near close.

Povetkin has been fighting relevant heavyweights for 10+ years now.

Even Eddie Chambers was an undefeated top 5hw way back when man. Then he met Povetkin

[champion4ever]

Let's compare the two shall we? Ortiz vs Povetkin. When Deontay Wilder challenged Luis Ortiz, he weighed only 214 lbs compared to Luis Ortiz' 241 lbs. That's nearly a 30 lbs weight differentiation.

Now let's contrast that to Anthony Joshua vs Alexander Povetkin. When he challenged Sasha he weighed 246 lbs as compared to Povetkin's 224 lbs. That's more than a 20 lbs weight differentiation.

Wilder knocked out a man who was much heavier than him while AJ was rocked and struggled to knockout an older undersized man who was much lighter than him.

That's the difference.

[_Rexy_]

Ortiz only passed medical exams on the day of the fight with Wilder. He is only marginally better than Povetkin for first 6 rounds. Wilder beat a senior citizen

That senior citizen is younger than Pov and Wlad.

[_Rexy_]

What is Pedvetkin's best performance? Same with Parker? Whyte?

Luis Ortiz destroyed top 10 Jennings coming off a 12 rounder with Wlad.

Pedvetkin went life and death with Chagaev, Takam, and Huck.
He's closer to Stiverne in class.

Parker arguably lost to Hughie Fury who is ranked like 20th, and struggled with Andy Ruiz too.

Whyte had a razor thin fight with Chisora.

Not a single one of them looked as impressive as Ortiz did against top 10 Jennings.

I had Ruiz over Parker actually.

[Johnston]

Let's compare the two shall we? Ortiz vs Povetkin. When Deontay Wilder challenged Luis Ortiz, he weighed only 214 lbs compared to Luis Ortiz' 241 lbs. That's nearly a 30 lbs weight differentiation.

Now let's contrast that to Anthony Joshua vs Alexander Povetkin. When he challenged Sasha he weighed 246 lbs as compared to Povetkin's 224 lbs. That's more than a 20 lbs weight differentiation.

Wilder knocked out a man who was much heavier than him while AJ was rocked and struggled to knockout an older undersized man who was much lighter than him.

That's the difference.

How is weight even relevant? Why not account age, height,reach and every other imaginable factor?

You also happen to leave out the part were Ortiz was winning the fight in most people's eyes and had wilder in serious trouble, but he got a lot of help to recover.. Which was blatant.

Mental gymnastics lol

[Cutthroat]

lol Jennings went 12 rounds with Mike Perez, and Povetkin dusted him in like a minute.

You do realize that Chisora stopped Malik Scott right?

You do realize that Jennings had a very close fight with Mike Perez who Povetkin dusted in 1 round.

If we're talking solid victories. Does Jennings have a meaningful win outside of Artur Szpilka?

If Luis Ortiz's biggest victory is knocking out a guy who got a SD over Mike Perez, who beat Artur Szpilka and lost a 12 round fight against Klitschko, that is a really, really low bar.

Mike Perez admitted to being drunk in the ring against Pedvetkin and said he did not care when he got knocked down.

Robert Garcia said Perez showed up to their gym in bad shape to train for that fight and they did not want to train him.

I don't count this win, nor should you. His alcoholism wasn't as severe when he was fighting Jennings and Takam.

Jennings not only went the distance with Wlad which many top 10 heavies have failed, he boxed relatively well even better than Pedvetkin.
116-111 on 2 judges card's

[Cutthroat]

So let’s get this straight.

Beating a guy in his last fight (Thompson) better than others did before him counts? Dude hadnt beat anyone but Solis in years and was coming off a loss.

Beating Jennings...also off a loss. Lets remind the world of Jennings best win as well. A SD win he got over Mike Perez thanks to a point deduction in the 11th or 12th round for hitting on the break despite it being at the same time as the ref was coming.

Povetkin starched Perez in one round.


Povetkin beat Takam.

Povetkin beat Chagaev who was also a top ten guy for years.


We dont have to make the case for Povetkin beating a guy better than someone else because he actually fought guys.

Marco Huck moving up a class as the legit champ in his division was a great win AND fight.

Get real man. Povetkin has had a better amateur career and pro career than Ortiz.

So ortiz beat Thompson better than Takam.

Lets just give him p4p status over it.

I’m a big fan of Ortiz mind you, but it’s nowhere near close.

Povetkin has been fighting relevant heavyweights for 10+ years now.

Even Eddie Chambers was an undefeated top 5hw way back when man. Then he met Povetkin

Solis' only career loss was Vitali Klitschko and it was due to a knee injury, he was still better than a lot of heavies in the division.

Only Wlad had stopped Tony Thompson, Ortiz dispatched of him with utter ease compared to Takam & Pulev.

-Mike Perez said he was drunk in the ring for Pedvetkin, didn't even care he got knocked down. Perez was a literal alcoholic at that point, even showed up to camp looking very poor. This win does not count.

-Pedvetkin started off down 0-4 against Pedvetkin on the judge's cards, his performance was similar to Chisora. Poor performance, not a signature win.

-Chagaev-Pedvetkin was 7 years ago, Chagaev was last relevant close to 10 years ago in an entirely different HW scene.

-Huck had already been stopped by Cunningham and drew with Afolabi right after arguably beating Pedvetkin. Huck was like the 4th best cruiser in his division, arguably worst getting a gift to Afolabi.



Face it, Pedvetkin's resume is not good at all, it filled with heavies from a much weaker era when Fury, Wilder, AJ, and Ortiz, the real top 4 heavies, were still developing.