AJ did what he had to do, so i can't knock that but the more i see him, the more confident i am of wilder stopping him or Fury making AJ look very basic (if he gets back to his best)
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Originally posted by Cutthroat View PostThe best win of his career is coming back from a 4-0 deficit to Carlos Takam similar to what a past it Dereck Chisora recently did.
He's coming off a fight where he got dropped by David Price, and previously went the distance with two journeymen level fighters.
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Luis Ortiz is better, Wilder is better, Fury is better.
Wilder will hurt that man, I can guarantee you that.
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As much s hit as I’ve given Povetkin, he was always a fine heavyweight who was outsized. It wasn’t skill he ever lacked. It was size.
Olympic gold medalist. Put some respek on his name. Peds aside, he’s always shown up and fought his ass off.
He’s 39 and on an obvious downside but I’d rate him and his overall career/pedigree over Luis Ortiz. Any day. Nothing against Ortiz but his claim to fame is Bryant Jennings coming off a loss...
And I think Bryant Jennings seems like a good dude but he was never very good imo.
Povetkin has been an upper eschelon HW for a LONG time. Damn good fighter.
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Povetkin and Ortiz are both dangerous and skilled contenders.
Anyone saying otherwise is just a fanboy.
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Originally posted by NahMean View PostWho has Ortiz ever fought and beat? Yet you wana claim he's one of the best heavyweights.
Ortiz out performed Pulev & Takam against Thompson.
Ortiz out performed Chisora against Scott.
Did much better than Parker did against Cojanu, did better than Whyte against Allen.
Neither Parker, Whyte, or Pedvetkin have had a single performance over a top 10 HW like Ortiz did against Jennings.
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Originally posted by Cutthroat View PostOrtiz destroyed Jennings who was ranked in the top 4 and as low as 2 against Wlad whom he went 12 with.
Ortiz out performed Pulev & Takam against Thompson.
Ortiz out performed Chisora against Scott.
Did much better than Parker did against Cojanu, did better than Whyte against Allen.
Neither Parker, Whyte, or Pedvetkin have had a single performance over a top 10 HW like Ortiz did against Jennings.
Ortiz and Povetkin are both old and both drug cheats so they are similar but in terms of acilades Povetkin is a former world champ and Olympic gold medalist dude he's achived way more than Ortiz.
Remeber when Wilder was supposed to fight him, people gave Wilder credit even tho tho that fight didn't happen so cut it out.Last edited by NahMean; 09-22-2018, 07:25 PM.
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Originally posted by Cutthroat View PostThe best win of his career is coming back from a 4-0 deficit to Carlos Takam similar to what a past it Dereck Chisora recently did.
He's coming off a fight where he got dropped by David Price, and previously went the distance with two journeymen level fighters.
Reminder:
Luis Ortiz is better, Wilder is better, Fury is better.
Wilder will hurt that man, I can guarantee you that.
He is the guy that knocked out the Big White Man that boogied African-American fighters for an entire decade.
When was the last relevant African-American to beat a White Heavyweight Champ?
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