Jab vs Body shot?

[Jab2Death]

No he didn't get stronger. Throwing more punches doesn't mean they were harder punches. Trying to argue that Golovkin was physically stronger at the end of the fight than at the beginning is again nonsense.

It's nonsense in a fight where you won't find one observer that will argue against GGG landing at least his 10 hardest punches in the last 6 rounds? He definitely landed his best punches and punches that were more effective in the second half of the fight.

[Jab2Death]

Speaks volumes about the way you view boxing.

I know you don't like to answer questions because it goes against your narrative and destroys any argument you think you might have, but I'm gonna try one more.

Is it possible that one boxer's face can absorbed damage better than another? Let's go a litter further. If every human is punched in the face in the same exact spot by the same exact machine putting the exact same amount of pressure, will every face have the same exact damage in appearance?

[Robbie Barrett]

It's nonsense in a fight where you won't find one observer that will argue against GGG landing at least his 10 hardest punches in the last 6 rounds? He definitely landed his best punches and punches that were more effective in the second half of the fight.

If he had the oppurtunity to land those same exact punches at the beginning i guarantee they'd have had more behind them. Canelo being tired played a massive part in him being able to land those shots. Think about what you're arguing here, that a fighter who has done 6+ hard rounds is stonger than a fighter that has done 0.

[Robbie Barrett]

Speaks volumes about the way you view boxing.

I know you don't like to answer questions because it goes against your narrative and destroys any argument you think you might have, but I'm gonna try one more.

Is it possible that one boxer's face can absorbed damage better than another? Let's go a litter further. If every human is punched in the face in the same exact spot by the same exact machine putting the exact same amount of pressure, will every face have the same exact damage in appearance?

You said they were doing damage to Canelo's face. I showed you the damage to both their faces.

[Jab2Death]

You said they were doing damage to Canelo's face. I showed you the damage to both their faces.

So, damage can only be seen in appearance only. My bad, I didn't know that's how it works. Do you really want to play that game? Should we start posting pictures of fighters faces and then declare the winner and see how it matches up with actual fight results?

Back to the point of this post and poll. Please show me pictures of those "BRUISING POWER PUNCH" body shots that Canelo landed less than 4 times a round. I can't wait to see the bruises all over GGG's body. I don't believe that damage is only showed through appearance, so I will take the reports about the internal injuries that GGG suffered as well.

I'm sure you'll keep ignoring all the questions I keep asking you.

[lopetego]

What does going backwards have to do with winning or losing a boxing match. Canelo was coming forward and paying dearly for it all night by eating "NON FLUFFY" jabs. I think you like many other people are missing my point that GGG's jabs are some fluffy Floyd Mayweather jab. They are powerful punches that cause damage and a noticeable effect. What makes a body shot automatically be a power punch? I honestly don't understand that reasoning.

Before you go talking about aggression and ring generalship, remember it's about effective aggression and ring generalship. You can come forward all fight, but if you're constantly getting countered with a powerful jab that is causing damage to your face and brain it means nothing.

I'll ask you like the other fellow that couldn't muster an answer. You brought up that all punches aren't the same in professional boxing. Do you believe every boxer has the same power in their jabs? Is it not possible that GGG's jabs are extremely powerful and more effective? If you had to make an educated guess, who's jab is more powerful between Canelo and GGG?

Canelo's body shots hurt GGG, that's why he was fighting backwards for the first time ever, that's the proof they were effective.

GGG doesn't fight like that, and he looked uncomfortable doing it. GGG stopped throwing body punches after ginger nailed him with a nasty body hook in the early rounds, he stopped completely, he kept his elbows tightly closed for most of the fight, more proof the body punches were doing damage.

On the other hand Canelo never stopped coming forward despite eating jab after jab, so in short...no, GGG's jab wasn't more effective than Canelo's body shots, it just landed more frequently

I agree that GGG has the most powerful jab in the division, certainly a more powerful jab than Canelo's, but that doesnt mean his jab equals a "power punch", unless there's some GGG fights I missed were he was koing ppl with jabs

[Robbie Barrett]

So, damage can only be seen in appearance only. My bad, I didn't know that's how it works. Do you really want to play that game? Should we start posting pictures of fighters faces and then declare the winner and see how it matches up with actual fight results?

Back to the point of this post and poll. Please show me pictures of those "BRUISING POWER PUNCH" body shots that Canelo landed less than 4 times a round. I can't wait to see the bruises all over GGG's body. I don't believe that damage is only showed through appearance, so I will take the reports about the internal injuries that GGG suffered as well.

I'm sure you'll keep ignoring all the questions I keep asking you.

You said damage to the face. I showed you the facial damage. Golovkin clearly looks like he's been in a road accident or something and Canelo looks pretty clean. You brought it up no need to start with an attitude.

[Jab2Death]

You said damage to the face. I showed you the facial damage. Golovkin clearly looks like he's been in a road accident or something and Canelo looks pretty clean. You brought it up no need to start with an attitude.

Ok, going off your premise since there are no pictures of GGG's body showing bruising or marks that means that none of Canelo's body punches caused damage, right? See how ****** that argument is. I'm arguing that Canelo's face doesn't mark up as much as GGG's face does. I've never really seen Canelo's face look damaged and seen him take plenty of hard shots to the face. That's a known thing that happens in boxing. Some boxers faces mark up easier than other's. Do you honestly disagree with that?

Who landed more punches to the head between these two fighters last night? Who landed the harder punches to the head last night? Remember the point of my post was that many posters that believe Canelo won was because he landed so much to the body.

[Jab2Death]

Canelo's body shots hurt GGG, that's why he was fighting backwards for the first time ever, that's the proof they were effective.

GGG doesn't fight like that, and he looked uncomfortable doing it. GGG stopped throwing body punches after ginger nailed him with a nasty body hook in the early rounds, he stopped completely, he kept his elbows tightly closed for most of the fight, more proof the body punches were doing damage.

On the other hand Canelo never stopped coming forward despite eating jab after jab, so in short...no, GGG's jab wasn't more effective than Canelo's body shots, it just landed more frequently

I agree that GGG has the most powerful jab in the division, certainly a more powerful jab than Canelo's, but that doesnt mean his jab equals a "power punch", unless there's some GGG fights I missed were he was koing ppl with jabs

Again, who cares about going backwards if you're losing exchanges. I can only go off of the numbers that are available. ESPN has Canelo landing less than 4 body shots a round. How was that what forced GGG to go backwards? Canelo decided that was how he wanted to fight. Only one fighter can move forward or you'd end up with both fighters in a constant clinch. Please provide video of a fight where both fighters are both moving forward the entire 12 rounds. I've never seen it and that would be a spectacle to watch, a boring spectacle but one nonetheless.

If GGG kept his elbows tight most of the fight did Canelo even actually land 46 body shots? I honestly don't think he did. I felt like a majority of his body shots were blocked or grazing shots.

What makes Canelo's body shots power shots? I honestly want to know the answer because I don't. Is there no body shot that doesn't count as a power shot?

[Robbie Barrett]

Ok, going off your premise since there are no pictures of GGG's body showing bruising or marks that means that none of his body punches caused damage, right? See how ****** that argument is. I'm arguing that Canelo's face doesn't mark up as much as GGG's face does. I've never really seen Canelo's face look damaged and seen him take plenty of hard shots to the face. That's a known thing that happens in boxing. Some boxers faces mark up easier than other's. Do you honestly disagree with that?

Who landed more punches to the head between these two fighters last night? Who landed the harder punches to the head last night? Remember the point of my post was that many posters that believe Canelo won was because he landed so much to the body.

Canelo landed more hard shots to the head in both fights. Golovkin landed more punches in both fights, Canelo landed more hard punches. This thread is about you trying to make Golovkins jab into being equal to Canelo's power punches and they aren't. Golovkin got battered with the more hard shots than Canelo.