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  • Jab2Death
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    #11
    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
    Weren't that effective? The body shots were clearly hurting Golovkin. He was protecting the right side of his body early in the fight because they were getting to him. Did Golovkins shortened jab stop Canelo walking him down? Did it damage his face? Nope. Had little effect.
    So, how do you explain Canelo's body shots not slowing down GGG's movement or punching output. Specifically the fact he threw more punches over the last 6 rounds. GGG averaged 66 punches for the first 6 rounds and 80 for last 6 rounds. How were these body shots so effective?

    Canelo definitely stopped coming forward less in the second half of the fight. I don't care how much he was coming forward, he was eating a power jab all 12 rounds. He got hit with it flush in every single round multiple times. Canelo got gifted a draw and a win in two fights with GGG, he made a lot of money but his brain will definitely pay a way bigger price later in life for all the head shots he absorbed.

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    • b00g13man
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      #12
      Power jabs. Lol.

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      • Robbie Barrett
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        #13
        Originally posted by Jab2Death
        So, how do you explain Canelo's body shots not slowing down GGG's movement or punching output. Specifically the fact he threw more punches over the last 6 rounds. GGG averaged 66 punches for the first 6 rounds and 80 for last 6 rounds. How were these body shots so effective?

        Canelo definitely stopped coming forward less in the second half of the fight. I don't care how much he was coming forward, he was eating a power jab all 12 rounds. He got hit with it flush in every single round multiple times. Canelo got gifted a draw and a win in two fights with GGG, he made a lot of money but his brain will definitely pay a way bigger price later in life for all the head shots he absorbed.
        Golovkin got hit with the harder shots in both fights. To win with the jab you better be dominating rounds clearly, because jabs don't hold as much weight as power punches.

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          #14
          Originally posted by OCPancho
          I guess some peeps didn't see GGG keeping his elbows in.
          That's what I saw most of the fight. Canelo definitely didn't land this obscene amount of body shots that some are making it out to be. I'm not sure where these stats come from, but ESPN Stats and Info PunchZone have Canelo landing 46 body shots. That's less than 4 body shots a round. GGG landed at least triple that amount of jabs and those punches were definitely harder with power or cumulative absorption.

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          • Jab2Death
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            #15
            Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
            Golovkin got hit with the harder shots in both fights. To win with the jab you better be dominating rounds clearly, because jabs don't hold as much weight as power punches.
            You obviously aren't getting my point of view. GGG'S JABS ARE POWER PUNCHES. I'm not questioning your boxing knowledge, so please don't take it that way, but you do realize a jab from one fighter can be completely different from another, right? If you had to take an educated guess between who's jab was more powerful between Canelo and GGG, who's would you choose?

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              #16
              You can’t knock down a tree by hitting the branches, but you can knock it down by hitting the trunk... think about that..

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                #17
                Originally posted by erdons
                You can’t knock down a tree by hitting the branches, but you can knock it down by hitting the trunk... think about that..
                Again, going from how the fight transpired over the last half of the fight, not only did Canelo not knock the "tree" down by hitting it's trunk, he also didn't even prove the punches were effective. GGG only got stronger as the fight progressed. How do you explain that?

                And, is the head a part of the trunk in this analogy. If so, GGG hit Canelo's trunk more times and harder than vice versa.

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                • Robbie Barrett
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Jab2Death
                  You obviously aren't getting my point of view. GGG'S JABS ARE POWER PUNCHES. I'm not questioning your boxing knowledge, so please don't take it that way, but you do realize a jab from one fighter can be completely different from another, right? If you had to take an educated guess between who's jab was more powerful between Canelo and GGG, who's would you choose?
                  No they aren't. Sure he has a good jab but to compare it to a power punch like a straight or hook is nonsense. He shortened the jab too. If his jabs were as hard as the average MW power punch Canelo wouldn't have been eating them to move forward.

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                  • GorillaDog
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                    #19
                    People saying GGG jabs harder than Canelo's power punches this can't be real life.

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                    • Jab2Death
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                      No they aren't. Sure he has a good jab but to compare it to a power punch like a straight or hook is nonsense. He shortened the jab too. If his jabs were as hard as the average MW power punch Canelo wouldn't have been eating them to move forward.
                      Why didn't you answer my question. If you had to make an educated guess, who's jab is more powerful between Canelo and GGG? Do you think every boxers jabs are equal in power? Is it not possible for a boxer to have a jab that would be considered a power punch? One would assume that a boxer that is regarded as one of the hardest punchers of all time could have a jab that might be one of the hardest jabs of all time. Do you disagree?

                      Canelo knows that his fans were disappointed the way he fought the first fight. I give Canelo props for the way he fought. He made the decision that he was gonna absorb all punishment to fight the way his fans wanted him to even if it got him KO'd. He thought he could win fighting that way because Canelo believed he could KO GGG, and obviously he can't and couldn't even hurt him.

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