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  • boliodogs
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    #21
    I voted for Canelo's wicked body punches. He is probably the best body puncher in boxing. GGG has the best jab in boxing. It's fast, hard and accurate and he throws and lands more jabs a round than any other boxer.

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    • Robbie Barrett
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      #22
      Originally posted by Jab2Death
      Why didn't you answer my question. If you had to make an educated guess, who's jab is more powerful between Canelo and GGG? Do you think every boxers jabs are equal in power? Is it not possible for a boxer to have a jab that would be considered a power punch? One would assume that a boxer that is regarded as one of the hardest punchers of all time could have a jab that might be one of the hardest jabs of all time. Do you disagree?

      Canelo knows that his fans were disappointed the way he fought the first fight. I give Canelo props for the way he fought. He made the decision that he was gonna absorb all punishment to fight the way his fans wanted him to even if it got him KO'd. He thought he could win fighting that way because Canelo believed he could KO GGG, and obviously he can't and couldn't even hurt him.
      This thread isn't about who has the harder jab. No a jab will never be considered a power punch. It simply doesn't generate as much force as a power punch, i don't care how good it is.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Shako93
        People saying GGG jabs harder than Canelo's power punches this can't be real life.
        What makes Canelo's or any boxers body punch a power punch? This post is specifically about Canelo's body shots. I've watched Floyd Mayweather land pot shot body punches his whole career, and they aren't power punches. That's not the point of this post and poll. Do you honestly believe Canelo's body shots that seemed to have no effect on GGG's stamina and punching speed or power were more powerful punches than GGG's jabs that literally snapped Canelo's head back all night? If so, what makes you believe this to be the case?

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          #24
          Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
          This thread isn't about who has the harder jab. No a jab will never be considered a power punch. It simply doesn't generate as much force as a power punch, i don't care how good it is.
          But a body punch that doesn't slow down an opponent's movement, punching output and punching power, is a power punch? How does that work?

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          • lopetego
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            #25
            Originally posted by Jab2Death
            How were these body shots so effective?
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            Did you miss the part were GGG fought going backwards for the first time in his career?

            also power punches >>> jabs

            this isn't amateur boxing where all punches count the same and you can get away with simply tapping your opponent with your fluffy jab

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              #26
              Originally posted by Jab2Death
              But a body punch that doesn't slow down an opponent's movement, punching output and punching power, is a power punch? How does that work?
              Golovkin was protecting his body and was blowing out of his ass after 4 rounds. That was the effects of the body punches. Ask any fighter if they'd rather get hit by a jab or a hard body shot and see what they say.

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              • Jab2Death
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                #27
                Originally posted by boliodogs
                I voted for Canelo's wicked body punches. He is probably the best body puncher in boxing. GGG has the best jab in boxing. It's fast, hard and accurate and he throws and lands more jabs a round than any other boxer.
                What makes them so wicked if they don't have the affect that they're supposed to have? GGG got stronger as the fight progressed. I have no problem with you voting for Canelo's body shots. I know media punch stats or Combubox aren't 100% accurate or anywhere near 100%, but that's all I have to go on as far as numbers. According to ESPN's PunchZone Canelo landed 46 body shots and according to Compubox GGG landed 118 jabs. Are Canelo's body shot's worth 2.5 times more than GGG's jabs? That's how much more damaging his body shots really are?

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Jab2Death
                  What makes them so wicked if they don't have the affect that they're supposed to have? GGG got stronger as the fight progressed. I have no problem with you voting for Canelo's body shots. I know media punch stats or Combubox aren't 100% accurate or anywhere near 100%, but that's all I have to go on as far as numbers. According to ESPN's PunchZone Canelo landed 46 body shots and according to Compubox GGG landed 118 jabs. Are Canelo's body shot's worth 2.5 times more than GGG's jabs? That's how much more damaging his body shots really are?
                  No he didn't get stronger. Throwing more punches doesn't mean they were harder punches. Trying to argue that Golovkin was physically stronger at the end of the fight than at the beginning is again nonsense.

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                  • Jab2Death
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by lopetego
                    Did you miss the part were GGG fought going backwards for the first time in his career?

                    also power punches >>> jabs

                    this isn't amateur boxing where all punches count the same and you can get away with simply tapping your opponent with your fluffy jab
                    What does going backwards have to do with winning or losing a boxing match. Canelo was coming forward and paying dearly for it all night by eating "NON FLUFFY" jabs. I think you like many other people are missing my point that GGG's jabs are some fluffy Floyd Mayweather jab. They are powerful punches that cause damage and a noticeable effect. What makes a body shot automatically be a power punch? I honestly don't understand that reasoning.

                    Before you go talking about aggression and ring generalship, remember it's about effective aggression and ring generalship. You can come forward all fight, but if you're constantly getting countered with a powerful jab that is causing damage to your face and brain it means nothing.

                    I'll ask you like the other fellow that couldn't muster an answer. You brought up that all punches aren't the same in professional boxing. Do you believe every boxer has the same power in their jabs? Is it not possible that GGG's jabs are extremely powerful and more effective? If you had to make an educated guess, who's jab is more powerful between Canelo and GGG?

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Jab2Death
                      What does going backwards have to do with winning or losing a boxing match. Canelo was coming forward and paying dearly for it all night by eating "NON FLUFFY" jabs. I think you like many other people are missing my point that GGG's jabs are some fluffy Floyd Mayweather jab. They are powerful punches that cause damage and a noticeable effect. What makes a body shot automatically be a power punch? I honestly don't understand that reasoning.

                      Before you go talking about aggression and ring generalship, remember it's about effective aggression and ring generalship. You can come forward all fight, but if you're constantly getting countered with a powerful jab that is causing damage to your face and brain it means nothing.

                      I'll ask you like the other fellow that couldn't muster an answer. You brought up that all punches aren't the same in professional boxing. Do you believe every boxer has the same power in their jabs? Is it not possible that GGG's jabs are extremely powerful and more effective? If you had to make an educated guess, who's jab is more powerful between Canelo and GGG?

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