Comments Thread For: Thurman: Spence is '2' at 147, Crawford is Barely a Champion!

[Tonyu]

I am a huge Thurman fan. A fully fit Thurman in my opinion beats Spence, but saying that we need to see what his like after injury and a long lay off. Si hurry back Keith and let's see.

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I assume a WBSS at 147 is unmakeable? Where is Mr Sauerland?

He would need to dish out a lot of money for that. You better call Floyd or Don King to set that tournament up. Only in America

[chrisJS]

Stop reading the purses that is not accurate on some of these websites, PBC fighters are getting paid more than what Bud is getting, Al Haymon fighters don’t advertise what there purses are, everything is kept in house, and Prograis and Ramirez are 140 pounders, so stop it with the little guys

I doubt Spence, Thurman, Garcia, Porter are making more than $3m per fight and I doubt they are fighting more than twice per year. The combined activity level the last two years for them is a fight per nine months. None of them have fought 3x in a year in a long time.

Ramirez is hardly a little guy. He's a huge JWW and Prograis isn't exactly small either.

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He would need to dish out a lot of money for that. You better call Floyd or Don King to set that tournament up. Only in America

He's making a minimum $3m per fight per his new contract and can fight as often as he likes. So barring injuries he'll be fighting 3x per year thus making $9m per year are the PBC welterweights seeing that money and activity? I doubt there's one Haymon fighter making $9m (minimum) next year outside of Wilder.

I also wouldn't categorize Prograis or Ramirez as "bums" either. Two very realistic opponents for Bud in 2019 and Prograis will probably be an even more attractive opponent than Porter or Garcia at this point if he wins the WBSS. If he doesn't then Taylor becomes an attractive option who isn't a bum.

Either way he will be fighting bums and you know it.

[Mick Higgs]

The problem with Keith"Sick note"Thurman is that he's just not active enough. Before taking on the likes of Spence, Porter & Crawford I suggest a well payed warm up fight in the UK against Amir Khan in a fight advertised as the battle of "TH£ BULL*****T£RS"!................

[Bronx2245]

I doubt Spence, Thurman, Garcia, Porter are making more than $3m per fight and I doubt they are fighting more than twice per year. The combined activity level the last two years for them is a fight per nine months. None of them have fought 3x in a year in a long time.

Ramirez is hardly a little guy. He's a huge JWW and Prograis isn't exactly small either.

Prograis is with Lou DiBella. He'll be going back to Showtime after the WBSS! Bob put him on ESPN to set up Ramirez vs. Prograis, after Ramirez swerved him! In fact, Prograis, Baranchyk, and Relikh, will all most likely go back to Showtime after the WBSS! Crawford's future is Jose Benavidez, Egidijus Kavaliauskas, and Carlos Adames!

https://www.boxingscene.com/dibella-prograis-boxings-best-140-pounder-big-star--129945

[mrlopez]

BWaHaahaHA!!

Not sure why its funny. Has your allegiance blinded you? ESPN is using common sense in their rankings. Bud has only fought once at WW. #2 is pretty high to begin with, why would they rank him any higher?

[chrisJS]

Prograis is with Lou DiBella. He'll be going back to Showtime after the WBSS! Bob put him on ESPN to set up Ramirez vs. Prograis, after Ramirez swerved him! In fact, Prograis, Baranchyk, and Relikh, will all most likely go back to Showtime after the WBSS! Crawford's future is Jose Benavidez, Egidijus Kavaliauskas, and Carlos Adames!

https://www.boxingscene.com/dibella-...g-star--129945

Ah, yeah Prograis your right will likely go back to Showtime. I like Adames. I think he can be a very good opponent perhaps by 2020 if he can stay active and there's no reason he can't. I also think if Taylor wins te WBSS (very possible) he'll be an attractive option that's not too difficult to make.

I don't think Crawford's next 3-4 fights will be as bad as the doom and gloomers believe but I don't think it will feature a Spence or Thurman but I also don't think they'll fight each other in the time Crawford does 3-4 more fights.

[AdonisCreed]

"...my next fight is going to be a tune-up and a rematch with Porter is a respectable fight. To act like its not a respectable fight is dumb."

So a tune up, then a rematch with Porter? Not if Porter fights Spence next! Maybe this is why Porter started talking crazy ("I'm not sure...") on Monday? Maybe he's going to duck Spence, and wait for Thurman!

That's exactly what's going to happen. I think Thurman will take a tune-up fight then go after Porter. So I think Spence is going to have to wait again for his chance at Thurman. So meanwhile Spence best option is Mikey Garcia and maybe a fight with Danny Garcia if he doesn't get the Porter fight. Because Porter is going to fight Ugas before he thinks about getting in the ring with Spence.

[Bronx2245]

Ah, yeah Prograis your right will likely go back to Showtime. I like Adames. I think he can be a very good opponent perhaps by 2020 if he can stay active and there's no reason he can't. I also think if Taylor wins te WBSS (very possible) he'll be an attractive option that's not too difficult to make.

I don't think Crawford's next 3-4 fights will be as bad as the doom and gloomers believe but I don't think it will feature a Spence or Thurman but I also don't think they'll fight each other in the time Crawford does 3-4 more fights.

Crawford's fights won't be "bad" fights, they just won't be against Top 5 WW opponents! I'm not mad at Crawford because, according to ESPN, he'll be making more money than PBC fighters, which is funny, because everyone thought Al Haymon was overpaying his fighters, and that's not the case! Crawford made the money move, but it won't help him get fight the best fighters!