Comments Thread For: Danny Garcia: 'I Won That Fight' After Watching Porter Replay

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  • chrisJS
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    #81
    I felt he won a razor thin decision but there can be no complaints. It was an either way type of decision. I felt there were 5 clear rounds for each and 2 swing rounds. So anything from 115-113 to 114-114 was fair. I just prefer Garcia's brand of boxing (even though he needs to throw more) over Porter's which I completely hate.

    He lost to Herrera clearly though and the Peterson one was a 115-113 either way or 114-114 type fight that he got so he's still up on close debatable fights on his career.

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    • McNulty
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      #82
      Originally posted by TheBigLug
      He didn't.

      Even a draw would be a big generous to Garcia but i could see it. No way did he win the majority of the rounds.
      Danny won. You have to understand power and how to score it. It's the number one criteria in scoring. Danny grabbed a lot of rounds with power shots and I don't mean anything besides the jab. The power of individual punches outweighs total punches from the away team. This isn't the amateurs where total punches means jack.

      Try and dig up interviews with Jerry Roth. He explains it very well and honestly, he's the best judge in Boxing history.

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      • Lefty0616
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        #83
        While the fight could've gone either way, I actually scored it for Garcia.

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        • TheBigLug
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          #84
          Originally posted by McDonough
          Danny won. You have to understand power and how to score it. It's the number one criteria in scoring. Danny grabbed a lot of rounds with power shots and I don't mean anything besides the jab. The power of individual punches outweighs total punches from the away team. This isn't the amateurs where total punches means jack.

          Try and dig up interviews with Jerry Roth. He explains it very well and honestly, he's the best judge in Boxing history.
          Depends how you look at it.

          i didn't think Danny was in control for much of the fight. i agree punch volume and aggression don't always mean everything, but it's down to the opponent to be in control of the aggressor and Garcia wasn't.

          if you're going to fight more on the back foot or as the counter puncher, you have to be controlling the distance and dictate pace of the fight more than Danny did. He didn't do it enough and a few clean shots here and there don't change that.

          You can't just not give the fight to the aggressor because the opponent landed some cleaner shots here and there, otherwise fighters with high volume would barely get a decision. if you're not pressing the action, then you need to be putting out the fire, so to speak, and Garcia never did.

          i don't even like watching Porter fight but Danny lost too many rounds because he never really got to grips with Porter's style.
          Last edited by TheBigLug; 09-12-2018, 02:06 PM.

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          • Mike_R
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            #85
            The judges got it right and that was honestly the last thing I expected to happen.

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              #86
              Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
              Now that he has had a chance to watch a replay, Danny Garcia is even more convinced he beat Shawn Porter. Garcia expressed his displeasure with the scoring of their fight in a Tweet late Monday night after watching Showtime's encore broadcast of their 12-round welterweight championship match. Porter defeated Garcia by unanimous decision in a very competitive bout to win the vacant WBC 147-pound championship Saturday night at Barclays Center in Brooklyn.
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              Garcia is the TBE limited fighter I have ever seen.

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              • paulf
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                #87
                Nope.

                That fight was as close as a fight can be. Shawn gave up rounds, Danny gave up rounds, but when they were both doing work there was very little between them.

                I didn't keep a score,felte Shawn won given the amount of time he was dictating the fight vs Danny, but you can't complain about 114-114 or 115-113 either way.

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                • McNulty
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by TheBigLug
                  You can't just not give the fight to the aggressor because the opponent landed some cleaner shots here and there, otherwise fighters with high volume would barely get a decision. if you're not pressing the action, then you need to be putting out the fire, so to speak, and Garcia never did.
                  Tell that to Floyd Mayweather in his win against Oscar. I gave Oscar like 2 MAYBE 3 rounds. Ineffective Aggression 101.

                  There is ineffective aggression and effective aggression. Effective agression gets a read and Porter wasn't effective a lot. He was mostly ineffective. When you're getting caught clean with hard power shots that disrupt what you're doing, that is scored highly for the round winner. Thats what wins rounds, power.

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                  • daggum
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by McDonough
                    Tell that to Floyd Mayweather in his win against Oscar. I gave Oscar like 2 MAYBE 3 rounds. Ineffective Aggression 101.

                    There is ineffective aggression and effective aggression. Effective agression gets a read and Porter wasn't effective a lot. He was mostly ineffective. When you're getting caught clean with hard power shots that disrupt what you're doing, that is scored highly for the round winner. Thats what wins rounds, power.
                    judges got floyd-pac wrong then. when will this corruption stop

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                    • champion4ever
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by NachoMan
                      Your post sort of contradicts itself. It wasn't a clear, hands-down win for anybody. It was a close, difficult fight to score. You could have ten knowledgeable fans see it completely different. Even the judges agreed on only four rounds. As far as so-called "pivotal rounds" go, every round counts the same.
                      I agree. Scoring a professional prizefight is a very subjective process. Most judges score quality over quantity. While it is true; Danny landed the cleaner, flashier and heavier punches of the two, yet he ate a lot of clean punches also and overall landed fewer punches than Porter too. In addition, he didn't land nearly enough of them in order to drop Porter; Let alone stun him or knock him out. To me Garcia was loading up on single haymakers at a time. While Shawn was the more more active and busier of the two with his work rate which carried the day and and ultimately won him the fight .

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