Comments Thread For: Danny Garcia: 'I Won That Fight' After Watching Porter Replay

[Catrin]

I guess it's just bad karma... For the Rios, Vargas, Salka fights. And his power just ain't the same at 147... Would like to see him against Ugas..

all the cherry picking thru out the years caught up to him....

[chicken-]

Danny won, on the four criteria of judging ; even compubox documents DSG being superior in accuracy, power-punches and Jabs -- in both categories Danny doubled Porter. FACTS.

Fights are scored per round and doubling your opponents accuracy doesn't matter if you are throwing half as many punches and they are landing more shots overall.

[1nonlymre]

Garcia's aggression was effective in the sense that he was landing harder, crisper shots, while expending much less energy. Porter was just working and pushing forward, which was effective, but he was way less economical with his shots, which typically means "not as effective" when you're doing about the same damage for much more effort. That's what I meant by "effective aggression". He made his shots count more when he chose to throw.

Garcia doesn't seem to have another gear though. He fights his fight, and when it doesn't work, he doesn't get desperate or change his gamelan at all. It's like he thinks he's fighting 140 guys or something, and not realizing that welters can walk through his power.

Fair enough. We have different definitions of what effective aggression is. I understand your definition of it. I define it as a situation where I see it as another means of saying "imposition of will" or rather, one guy forcing the gameplan on the other guy while nullifying his gameplan on him. But you're definition is cool. In the end we both agree on the notion that Garcia doesn't step it up when required and pays the price for it. It a similar type of performance/loss to Thurman.

[1nonlymre]

Fights are scored per round and doubling your opponents accuracy doesn't matter if you are throwing half as many punches and they are landing more shots overall.

TO a degree I agree with that. But if Fighter A is landing at a higher percentage with fewer punches than Fighter B, he's winning IF his punches are having the required affect. Look at KO fighters like Tyson or Wilder...both didn't land crazy percentages, but when they did, they make/made it count.
Garcia was accurate, but not busy enough with that accuracy, to get Porter's respect because the accurate landed shots that he did land (in the volume landed) did not hurt Porter long term or make Porter hesitant to continue to attack.

[SkillspayBills]

Garcia lost, but he showed me that Spence is definitely going to stop Porter. Garcia landed almost 50 percent of his power shots, if Spence does the same then he's taking a knee.

[1nonlymre]

He [Danny] landed the harder and more effective and efficient punches which I thought would’ve gave him the close win!

Lesson to all fighters, if your being economical with shots then make sure you severely hurt your opponent or knock them down if not a knockout cuz there’s only 1 Mayweather where throwing near thousands of punches and still lose!

He was efficient for sure (his connect percentage reaffirms that). But effective? As you say, his shots did not hurt his opponent or knock him down or out. So no, not very effective (at least by my definition). He did hang in there and was composed, though. Too bad he didn't demonstrate a higher gear and output to nullify Porter's workrate.

[Jab jab boom]

Fights are scored per round and doubling your opponents accuracy doesn't matter if you are throwing half as many punches and they are landing more shots overall.

landing more shots overall isn't a huge deal when you only landed an average of 1 more shots per round. At that point, the cleaner more effe tuve punching should be taken into consideration.

[lizard_man]

I wanna see garcia brook next. That would be a great fight.

[vitali1999]

He looked like he was gonna cry shortly after the decision was announced. Sure he could have got the decision cause it was close but Showtime Shawn Porter won more rounds. For once the judges got it right.

[champion4ever]

After I rewatched the fight I couldn't give Danny more than six rounds. The fight was closer because of two things. One was because Shawn strategically came out and boxed off the back foot while spotting Garcia the first three rounds in the process. Essentially he wasn't fighting like Shawn Porter.

Lastly, rounds 10 and 12 were swing rounds which could have gone either way or could have been scored draws. If two of the judges were to give Danny both of those rounds then we would had a draw. Or if one of the three judges would have scored both those rounds for Shawn Porter then the score would have read 116-112 for Showtime.

However, if two of the three judges would have scored at least one of those rounds for Shawn Porter and the other for Danny Garcia, then we would have had a 115-113 score for Porter which we did. Or had two of those judges would have scored at least one of those pivotal rounds for Porter and the other even then we would have had a score of 115-114 for porter.

Likewise, if at least two of those judges would have scored both those rounds even then we would have had a score of 116-114 for Porter.

When all is said and done; When you break it down, Shawn won this fight hands down. It was a very close but clear victory in his favor.