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  • Cutthroat
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    #21
    Originally posted by have_not
    Usyk has fought as a hw in wbss.
    He outclassed the much bigger Joe Joyce and several others, he knows how it is to fight a hw
    Massive difference between inexperienced amateur heavies and the cream of the crop. Joyce has improved leaps and bounds since they fought, one of the others Fa, nearly lost to a journeyman as a pro too.
    Last edited by Cutthroat; 09-11-2018, 03:14 AM.

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    • Oshio
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      #22
      Usyk should start at the Heavies by fighting guys like Price, Molina and others

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      • Noelanthony
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        #23
        Originally posted by champion4ever
        That might never happen because he has an airtight defense and is smaller and quicker enough to avoid the huge punches from the naturally larger and stronger fighters at heavyweight. All he has to do is utilize the ring to his advantage by staying off the ropes and keeping the fight in the center of the ring
        Easier said than done. Although I believe he beats Wilder now. He is a boxer that can box to instructions and he outclasses Wilder and stays away from his deadly one two. He beats Wilder easier than Joshua could.

        If garbage fighters like Washington can out wilder what do you think Usyk will do. Gosh and he is a southpaw. He embarrasses Wilder. They are also near enough the same weight.

        Wilderhas one notable advantage and that’s his power. Everything else Usyk is better than him. It’s a bloody mismatch to be fair.😝

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          #24
          Originally posted by Noelanthony
          Easier said than done. Although I believe he beats Wilder now. He is a boxer that can box to instructions and he outclasses Wilder and stays away from his deadly one two. He beats Wilder easier than Joshua could.

          If garbage fighters like Washington can out wilder what do you think Usyk will do. Gosh and he is a southpaw. He embarrasses Wilder. They are also near enough the same weight.

          Wilderhas one notable advantage and that’s his power. Everything else Usyk is better than him. It’s a bloody mismatch to be fair.😝
          Not so much; Usyk would have to fight the perfect fight against Wilder because Deontay has that athleticism and equalizer in order to close that distance. Moreover he carries his power later into fights while most heavyweights typically gasses late into fights. Therefore, if Oleksandr so much as even make a minor mishap in the fight he is done. Many men have tried to out box Wilder for twelve rounds in the past and guess what happened; They all failed? He eventually found them and knocked them all out.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Noelanthony
            Easier said than done. Although I believe he beats Wilder now. He is a boxer that can box to instructions and he outclasses Wilder and stays away from his deadly one two. He beats Wilder easier than Joshua could.

            If garbage fighters like Washington can out wilder what do you think Usyk will do. Gosh and he is a southpaw. He embarrasses Wilder. They are also near enough the same weight.

            Wilderhas one notable advantage and that’s his power. Everything else Usyk is better than him. It’s a bloody mismatch to be fair.��
            Also, keep in mind that Wilder is a lot lighter and quicker than most heavyweights. He is closer in size to Usyk. Wilder weighs only 15.4 stones, While Joshua weighs close to 18.6 stones. Therefore he is lot heavier and slower than Usyk which will make it that much more difficult for Joshua to find him and land combinations since he is not a one punch knockout artist like the "Bronze Bomber".

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            • Muz
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              #26
              Usyk will be undisputed heavyweight champion by 2021

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                #27
                Usyk won't do too well at HW imo, he won't beat AJ, Wilder or Fury and then guys like Price can still knock him out.

                He is a really good but not great CW. His boxing skills are pretty good, his gas tank is very good - his footwork is flashy but not necessarily most effective / efficient use of energy especially at HW. I like his style but can see his limitations.

                The current CW division is very strong in that there are a lot of evenly matched competitors, but they are nothing special if I have to be completely honest.

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                • Noelanthony
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by champion4ever
                  Not so much; Usyk would have to fight the perfect fight against Wilder because Deontay has that athleticism and equalizer in order to close that distance. Moreover he carries his power later into fights while most heavyweights typically gasses late into fights. Therefore, if Oleksandr so much as even make a minor mishap in the fight he is done. Many men have tried to out box Wilder for twelve rounds in the past and guess what happened; They all failed? He eventually found them and knocked them all out.
                  Yes Wilder is very Athletic but he never uses his athleticism in his fights. If you are a sound boxer similar to Ortiz who I must add is very ponderous compared to Wilder but nevertheless because he is an adept fighter he totally dictated the pace and his will. Fitness and over confidence cost Ortiz that victory.

                  Yes it’s all good and well saying fighters that have fought Wilder have all tried to box and Wilder ends up finding a way but who has he really fought. Wilder makes ordinary washed fighter look like Mayweather. Albeit if Wilder catches anybody cleanly it’s over , that goes for Usyk, Joshua or anybody. That’s whats bloody annoying because he is straight Garbage( I like him but he is)

                  Now if Joshua fights Usyk the way he fought Parker he will not even lay a glove on Usyk. It will be Similar to Fury vs Wladimir.

                  I remember now this came straight out of Johnny Nelson mouth( don’t know him it’s cool he’s not worth remembering) but Wladimir was sparring Usyk for the Fury fight and all theBritish press arrived and because Usyk was embarrassing Klitschko with his movement they told him to get out of the ring. Trust me this Usyk is ready and I’m scared because Muz is going to be a happy camper

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                  • Vae Victis
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                    #29
                    AJ, "It used to be guys like me, and [Deontay] Wilder, [Tyson] Fury, we used to be clumsy. And now our coordination’s good, we can punch, we’re strong" My suggestion to AJ: If you want to see an uncoordinated (boxing) heavyweight/superheavyweight, take the time to review the videos of three of your so called Olympic wins: Savon, Dychko, and Cammarelle. You, AJ, were outboxed by each of those opponents as you were slow and uncoordinated. But as you were gifted the wins, you now feel empowered to speak as if they hadn't bested you.
                    And I won't even get into the troubles you'd face against the heavyweights of Ali's era. AJ, do me a favor and keep your opinions to yourself until you find the courage to fight: Wilder, Ortiz, and Fury. And one more thing, AJ, you aren't now nor ever will be fit to lick the spit off Teófilo Stevenson's shoes. And his career began over fifty years ago.

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                    • Noelanthony
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Vae Victis
                      AJ, "It used to be guys like me, and [Deontay] Wilder, [Tyson] Fury, we used to be clumsy. And now our coordination’s good, we can punch, we’re strong" My suggestion to AJ: If you want to see an uncoordinated (boxing) heavyweight/superheavyweight, take the time to review the videos of three of your so called Olympic wins: Savon, Dychko, and Cammarelle. You, AJ, were outboxed by each of those opponents as you were slow and uncoordinated. But as you were gifted the wins, you now feel empowered to speak as if they hadn't bested you.
                      And I won't even get into the troubles you'd face against the heavyweights of Ali's era. AJ, do me a favor and keep your opinions to yourself until you find the courage to fight: Wilder, Ortiz, and Fury. And one more thing, AJ, you aren't now nor ever will be fit to lick the spit off Teófilo Stevenson's shoes. And his career began over fifty years ago.
                      Bro that is too much emotion you are expending on a unified heavyweight champion you don’t even know. Look at the association of his name look at what it has done for the likes of Wilder. Show some respect for your Emperor.

                      The heavyweight division was ambushed by foreign invaders and kept captive for 11 years. You sent American fighters abroad to contest the belt but they were smashed and sent packing back to the states. You called on your allies and we came to your rescue and sent are very own fat gypsie fight Tyson Fury. Fast forward 3 years now Joshua has the belts and you Americans have the nerve to bicker.

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