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  • Scipio2009
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    #81
    Originally posted by Eff Pandas
    UK boxing is a different beast as I just mentioned so thats just a whole other thing.

    But who's Michel & DiBella letting go work with others? And Mayweather ain't even got a name guy on THAT sorta level. Even Tank ain't THAT big in the game yet. He's more a social media star than a boxing star I feel like. Or he's just getting on that level very recently. Plus with the combative nature of that Tank & Floyd relationship right now that might be a special case if Floyd does let him fight under another banner in the future. Or a much bigger name situation if that Loma fight were to come into play cuz I'd expect TR to promote that fight if it were made.

    I'm talking the big name guys. EVERYONE lets lil or still up & coming guys go here & there from time to time. But the big name guy doing business like Bud is isn't a guy anyone else in the US is letting go on other platforms as a rule with very few exceptions.

    I wouldn't disagree Bobby is a tighter promoter with letting his contracted fighters do things with others even when it does come to the smaller names, but the big names are boxers every promoter is holding tightly onto across the board.

    Bud is a Arum/ESPN branded fighter. There is value to TR in keeping him under there own banner just like there is value for PBC keeping Spence under there banner or Main Events keeping Kovalev (pre-this recent loss anyway, his value is dropping a lot in the boxing stock market) under there banner & so on & so forth with the big names in the sport signed to promoters/networks. This is nothing crazy.

    There is sh^t to be critic of with Arum no f#cking doubt about it, but I don't believe this thing to be one of them.
    Will have to agree to disagree

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    • killakali
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      #82
      Originally posted by Scipio2009
      You do know that Tim Bradley was positioned to fight Amir Khan at 140lbs before making the move over to Top Rank, right?

      Fight Khan and Lamont Peterson, and Bradley would've been the undisputed 140lb champion, with Danny Garcia, Lucas Matthysse, Mauricio Herrera, Ruslan and others in the cue waiting for him.

      And, with the unified 140lb title to his name, he likely would've had a shot at a Floyd fight.
      and all that combined pays less than 3 Pac fights and a MARQUEZ fight lol. Plus he fought Peterson and Provo anyway.

      Horrible logic. Plus u neglect to mention he was killing himself to make 140 at the end.

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      • killakali
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        #83
        Originally posted by Scipio2009
        I disagree. On sheer starpower (TV interest, live gate, sponsors, international TV, etc), Crawford is clearly behind Thurman, Spence, and Garcia. He's the A-side to Berto and the likely A-side to Porter.

        The reach can only go so far where the only market where you're currently set in is Omaha Nebraska.
        nahhhh lol. Garcia just fought rios in an over Half empty Mandalay Bay. Crawford Postol has a bigger gate and attendance.

        Crawford is announced by his next fight on sports center. People don’t know about garcia unless they go to a boxing Website. He doesn’t have the same marketing push that Crawford has.

        That’s why Crawford makes so much more money than Porter garcia and thurman.

        As for Thurman. He’s long forgotten. He would have been a side a year ago. Not anymore.

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        • killakali
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          #84
          Originally posted by JcLazyX210
          Bob is still making a killing off of him. Look at Floyd there's more money out there if you go independent. However 3mil is 3mil I ain't hating. Get his coins.

          His career will be lackluster tho. Just like Bradley.
          bradley had a better career than Garcia thurman etc lmaooo

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            #85
            Originally posted by killakali
            nahhhh lol. Garcia just fought rios in an over Half empty Mandalay Bay. Crawford Postol has a bigger gate and attendance.

            Crawford is announced by his next fight on sports center. People don’t know about garcia unless they go to a boxing Website. He doesn’t have the same marketing push that Crawford has.

            That’s why Crawford makes so much more money than Porter garcia and thurman.

            As for Thurman. He’s long forgotten. He would have been a side a year ago. Not anymore.
            So much more money than Thurman? Dude walked away with at least 3+ million last fight, and probably close to that vs Porter. He may be one time as he only fights once a year, but he has been getting paid very well. Probably part of the problem for his inactivity.

            These PBC fighters are getting paid a lot more than what has been reported. Eddie Hearn found out the wrong way, but Crawford will be getting some very nice pay days from now on out. Not that he hasn't been paid well as he got around three million vs Horn as well.

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              #86
              Originally posted by Eff Pandas
              A guy who knows he can make 5M-7M fighting bums in 2yrs if he tested his value.
              Let’s be real was a slim chance he was going fight the pbc guys anyways arum will never be the b-side promoter after having to for may/pac to finally happen

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                #87
                Originally posted by Steven Mccowan
                no. Its not an arguement. Just a simple fact. Crawfords the best fighter in the world. Other fighters need to fight himo prove themselves. And ummm...he conquered jww. Something nobody did in these modern eras. Given the chance he will do it at ww. No arguments and no fooking excuses and no 'get right or get left' drooling herd ****. Best fight the best or fook off. If spence is gonna fight a tiny guy because he got 'called out' and thats ok with the masses then its gonna be called equally by me. Any dumb herd **** need not apply for my attention. Im a pure boxing fan and i dont mingle with ******s. So if you are a 'team pbc', 'team top rank', 'team GBP etc then might as well just move on
                Lol you clearly a top rank fan not a pure boxing fan as you stated, Crawford is talented no doubt about it but he has never fought top guys in division he is in jww was pure **** when he unified and so was 135 now at 147 all the top guys are with pbc and he signs a new Deal with two years left on his old Deal knowing full well that arum will never be b-side promoter to a fight again killing any hope of any unifications he can take part in that’s just simple facts don’t have to be a pbc guy to see that

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                • killakali
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by KTFOKING
                  So much more money than Thurman? Dude walked away with at least 3+ million last fight, and probably close to that vs Porter. He may be one time as he only fights once a year, but he has been getting paid very well. Probably part of the problem for his inactivity.

                  These PBC fighters are getting paid a lot more than what has been reported. Eddie Hearn found out the wrong way, but Crawford will be getting some very nice pay days from now on out. Not that he hasn't been paid well as he got around three million vs Horn as well.
                  keef is in th 2.5 mil range. Garcia porter 1.5-2 range.

                  The difference is crawford is a minimum of 3 and can make more plus he can fight 3-4 times a year if he wants

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                  • Eff Pandas
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by SchoolTheseCats
                    Let’s be real was a slim chance he was going fight the pbc guys anyways arum will never be the b-side promoter after having to for may/pac to finally happen
                    Idk that that even matters. Him signing an extension BEFORE he's a free agent is just bad business & naive if not outright ****** of Bud or any fighter.

                    Granted there is a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush argument to be made here & maybe Bud knows sh^t we don't know. Maybe he'll be retired in 2 years or has some nagging issue that he feels might turn into a career shortening issue or some sh^t like that so this would be the smart move in that case.

                    But my point remains....more cats need to test free agency in boxing regardless of what fights may or may not get made if you do or don't re-sign with a promoter. You increase your income by doing this whoever you end up signing with. And for a boxer that should be among the top goals among several important factors.

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                    • Eff Pandas
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Scipio2009
                      Will have to agree to disagree
                      Agree to disagree on my Q lol?

                      Who's GYM & DiBella let fight elsewhere that was on Bud's level?

                      This is basic sh^t everyone does. Joshua ain't fighting anywhere but where Hearn is in cahoots with. Spence ain't fighting anywhere PBC isn't in business with. Kovalev wasn't fighting anywhere but where Main Events wanted when he was hot.

                      "Agree to disagree" if you like, but you're just wrong here & I f#cking love to dog on Arum myself. But this just ain't a thing you can logical diss or hate on him for.

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