Comments Thread For: Terence Crawford Inks New Multi-Year Deal With Top Rank

[BigStomps]

1. Bob chronically rips off fighters (see above)
2. Bud signing this means unless the top welterweights all sign with the bobfather than we aren't going to see Bud in a fight anyone cares about hence his earnings power will suck. At least Bradley had manny 8 times and Marquez. Who does Bud have??? NO ONE. So I don't think anyone really cares who fights for who but BUD made dumb decision. I mean Danny Jacobs knew outside of the Jermal, no one to fight on PBC's roster so he went to HBO to chase GGG and Canelo. Haymon didn't fight him on that. Bobfather ain't letting Bud fight outside the umbrella.

Well you might think that Bud made a dumb decision but in all reality you don't know that and neither does anyone outside of his team.
But I'm willing to bet Bob Arum is throwing Alot of money at Crawford for him to resign with Top Rank.
If that's the case then who are we to question his decision??

[BigStomps]

exactly. He got 3mil for Horn. Look at what the PBC welters get paid

Same thing I'm thinking. If I'm a boxer Imma go where the money is at, fucc everything else!
At the end of the day fans don't really give a flying fucc about a boxer's well being. They just wanna see a great fight so it's up to a boxer to look out for himself. That's what I would do in his shoes. ...
And 99% of the fools on here would do the same thing so IDK why they acting ****** and saying Crawford made a mistake...

[BigStomps]

They care because of this whole black consciousness movement that's been going on online the last few years, or whatever it's called, combined with the promotion of anti-white racism in the mainstream media, combined with the lie that Donald Trump is a white supremacist and white supremacists elected him and blacks are being systematically discriminated against and hated by a large portion of the country. All these lies have created an "it's us against the world" mentality among many black Americans, and that's just carried over to boxing where these people support Floyd, Ward, Haymon, Spence, Wilder, etc, no matter what, because of their skin color. The same way they view Trump relative to America, that's how they view Arum, HBO,Hearn, Kathy Duva, etc, relative to boxing. Trump represents white supremacy in America to them, and every white promoter and boxer, or any TV channel that promotes white boxers, represents white supremacy in boxing to them.

Is it crazy? Yes. Is it really that surprising that it's come to this in boxing after how effectively they were brainwashed about race regarding the nation at large? No, it's not. One follows the other. They've been taught that the media and social structures at large in the country are run by white supremacists, so if you believe that, why wouldn't they also believe that the boxing media, and the power promoters in boxing like Arum, are also run by white supremacists? I mean, you can even find videos on youtube claiming that the reason HBO is not picking up Kovalev-Alvarez II is not because Kovalev is past his prime and HBO's boxing budget is dying, but rather because HBO was only in the Kovalev business in the first place because they wanted to push white supremacism by hyping a white fighter, but now that he lost to a black fighter, and they, the video posits, know that the black fighter will beat him again in the rematch, they have no interest in promoting the black fighter, Alvarez, and that's why they're not going to pay to air the rematch.

This isn't just one video, by the way. This **** is absolutely rampant within boxing social media. This is really the way many of these people think, so obviously, Floyd, Haymon, Showtime, etc are absolute heroes to these people because Haymon is the one who *****ed HBO over, Floyd is the one who left HBO, and Showtime in concert with Haymon and Floyd is HBO's direct competition. If HBO is white supremacist, and Showtime is HBO's rival, then Showtime must be anti-white supremacist, right? Showtime must be fighting the evil empire, right? That's how most members of this subculture among black boxing fans think.

You know You and me have had allot of disagreements in the past but not on this.
I totally agree with everything you said!
It's fuccing ridiculous though!

[boxing90]

Crawford has the WBO "top rank" belt... only big name that will draw viewers to him I think is if pacman fights him for the WBA that Kieth Thurman holds... I see bob bulding Crawford up a nice little resumes, expect a Crawford vs Pacman trilogy

[killakali]

No one is dissing Crawford's ability to fight; folks are simply stating that we've all seen this story before and we know how it ends. Bob Arum will never willingly be part of an event where he's the B-side promoter on a fight, and that's basically the case with every major welterweight fight that can be made right now.

Crawford is going to fight Jose Benevidez, likely fight whatever welterweight Frank Warren has, look at fighting some no-name no hoper, and then will likely fight Jose Ramirez (so that Ramirez can avoid Regis Prograis), which will magically become a trilogy. By then, Arum will hope against hope that one of his other guys is ready to fight.

He's going to be Tim Bradley, a good fighter who fought whomever was put in front of him, and never said **** because the guaranteed money was more than what Bradley could draw on his own name.

Terms were not announced, but Crawford's minimum purses are more than the $3 million he earned for his last fight, a source with knowledge of the deal told ESPN.

[killakali]

Well you might think that Bud made a dumb decision but in all reality you don't know that and neither does anyone outside of his team.
But I'm willing to bet Bob Arum is throwing Alot of money at Crawford for him to resign with Top Rank.
If that's the case then who are we to question his decision??

Terms were not announced, but Crawford's minimum purses are more than the $3 million he earned for his last fight, a source with knowledge of the deal told ESPN.

[killakali]

Thank you!!!! He's going to fight bums for the WBO for the rest of his career while getting robbed by Bob.

Terms were not announced, but Crawford's minimum purses are more than the $3 million he earned for his last fight, a source with knowledge of the deal told ESPN.

[mathed]

Superstar? Guess they didn’t see the lack of people who knew Crawford at the ESPY’s and when he won the award, people sounded like they only applauded cuz “someone “ won something!

Now, when Wilder was at the ESPY’s he had a crowd full of people wanting his autograph or picture and were excited!

It’s an ESPN platform but I’m happy Bud is getting paid well even though he won’t ever fight the best at 147

Lmao, They thought Wilder was LeBron.

[RL_GMA]

Considering Crawford's been adamant about fighting the PBC fighters (Danny, Spence, Thurman) I can't think that he and Todd deBouf sat down and that DIDN'T come up in discussion as it relates to his next 7 years.

What people gotta remember too as it relates to the divide amongst the Networks / Promoters, EVERYONE is doing in house fights before having to extend the olive branches (Loma vs Linares, Russell Jr vs Diaz). At some point though (sooner than later) the well will run dry in the different divisions each Promoter / Network has a majority stock in. Al has most of the Welters while Bob really has just 1 (not even including Manny). I also wonder if both sides have already began speaking without fans knowing about it. Wouldn't be the 1st time. Then I look at Jermall Charlo who has NOBODY to fight under the PBC banner and the likelyhood now of him fighting GGG or Canelo is slim to none being those guys already have a proven track record on HBO / PPV and doesn't seem he'll travel outside the umbrella now (which he'd have to ala Khan and Jacobs who fought both GGG and Canelo but still being advised by Haymon). So what does HE do?

Overall though, when the demand is there these fights tend to happen. But the way Boxing looks today reminds me much of 80s Wrestling with different promoters having their programming on different networks and the Wrestlers would have to travel to different companies to Wrestle their stars. Not that much different here.

[pillowfists98]

Are you an idiot? The main issue here is ALL THE GOOD WELTERWEIGHTS ARE ON THE PBC SIDE. They can all fight each other and have some great matchups. Who the **** is Bud going to fight? Benavidez in a trilogy?

That's not what I said. I just want them to work together and make the fights.