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  • TonyGe
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    #231
    Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
    Where exactly do you think that these gloves are being made?

    How exactly are they going to cheat if the gloves are inspected before the fight?
    In this case how are they going to inspect the gloves??? The gloves have no track record. They would have to take them apart and examine the polyurethane padding and make sure the padding is of good quality and won't degrade under stress. The NSAC has already said no to the gloves being used in the rematch so they have some reservations. The situation where the trainer supplying the gloves is an accident wanting to happen IMO. Why do rival coaches watch the opponent get his hands wrapped. After all there are officials there that are supposed to do the same thing. It's because a boxers hands can be a lethal weapon if rules aren't followed. No trainer is going to leave the safety of their fighter hinge on the practices of the opponents camp. Gloves are a piece of safety equipment and should be supplied by someone who doesn't have a huge stake in who wins the fight. You may not agree but that's how I see it.

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    • Joe Beamish
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      #232
      Originally posted by AdonisCreed
      I mean if team GGG feels this strongly about canelo being a cheat then why are they even giving canelo a second chance!! I mean they believe he used steroids on purpose and now they don't feel comfortable about his choice of boxing gloves!! I mean just move on and fight someone else then like Jacobs, Saunders, Charlo, Andrade or his Mando Sergiy!! GGG must want that money really bad if he's this persistent to fight a guy who DOES NOT have a belt and coming off a SUSPENSION for PEDs AND he had his IBF STRIPPED from him. Move on GGG or quit being a chump and take the fight that you've been asking for, for YEARS!!
      Hell yes, the money matters. If you're 36 years old, nearing the end of your career, you're crazy to turn down this kind of money.

      Canelo and GoldenBoy are pretty shady. But they can be beat anyway, even when they have unfair advantages (judges, gloves, wrapping, PEDs.) The goal is to try to reduce the cheating as much as possible, and try to get a somewhat fair fight.

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      • Ake-Dawg
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        #233
        Originally posted by TonyGe
        In this case how are they going to inspect the gloves??? The gloves have no track record. They would have to take them apart and examine the polyurethane padding and make sure the padding is of good quality and won't degrade under stress. The NSAC has already said no to the gloves being used in the rematch so they have some reservations. The situation where the trainer supplying the gloves is an accident wanting to happen IMO. Why do rival coaches watch the opponent get his hands wrapped. After all there are officials there that are supposed to do the same thing. It's because a boxers hands can be a lethal weapon if rules aren't followed. No trainer is going to leave the safety of their fighter hinge on the practices of the opponents camp. Gloves are a piece of safety equipment and should be supplied by someone who doesn't have a huge stake in who wins the fight. You may not agree but that's how I see it.
        They don't consider the wear and tear. It's the weight and location of the padding. 10 ounces. Also, when did NSAC make a final ruling. Loeffler said he thinks Alvarez has to use traditional. That's not a ruling.

        Is it possible a legit manufacturer made the No Boxing No life brand of gloves? Think about that instead of how this just can't be allowed.

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        • Joe Beamish
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          #234
          From Dan Rafael's chat today:

          Jmoney (Corrales) [via mobile]

          Is Abel Sanchezs gripe legitimate in your eyes as far as the new gloves Canelo wants to wear? I guess I kind of understand it seeing how they are new and haven't been worn in a championship fight yet. Not to mention that his trainer apparently made them

          Dan Rafael, King Fight Freak (12:57 PM)

          Yes. They are untested and do not conform to Nevada's rules. The commission allows fighter to select their brand of gloves but they have to be approved and tested by the commission.

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          • aboutfkntime
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            #235
            Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
            Golovkin's Trainer Explains Their Protest of Canelo's Gloves


            Team Crybaby do not need to explain their protest

            we get it already, and have simply added that whine to the list

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            • Ake-Dawg
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              #236
              Originally posted by TonyGe
              In this case how are they going to inspect the gloves??? The gloves have no track record. They would have to take them apart and examine the polyurethane padding and make sure the padding is of good quality and won't degrade under stress. The NSAC has already said no to the gloves being used in the rematch so they have some reservations. The situation where the trainer supplying the gloves is an accident wanting to happen IMO. Why do rival coaches watch the opponent get his hands wrapped. After all there are officials there that are supposed to do the same thing. It's because a boxers hands can be a lethal weapon if rules aren't followed. No trainer is going to leave the safety of their fighter hinge on the practices of the opponents camp. Gloves are a piece of safety equipment and should be supplied by someone who doesn't have a huge stake in who wins the fight. You may not agree but that's how I see it.
              The only concern Sanchez voiced was them tearing and giving Alvarez rest. Why are you guys creating other issues to argue with. If the head trainer isn't concerned about it shouldn't you as a fan be ok with it?

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              • TonyGe
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                #237
                Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
                They don't consider the wear and tear. It's the weight and location of the padding. 10 ounces. Also, when did NSAC make a final ruling. Loeffler said he thinks Alvarez has to use traditional. That's not a ruling.

                Is it possible a legit manufacturer made the No Boxing No life brand of gloves? Think about that instead of how this just can't be allowed.
                No your right they haven't made a comprehensive ruling on the glove itself. I was talking about the rematch primarily. To be clear. I think no one that close to a fighter should be allowed to supply gloves of a brand he owns for his own fighters. That's my take on it. I know you disagree or appear to disagree that's your view. I voiced my concerns.

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                • TonyGe
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                  #238
                  Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
                  The only concern Sanchez voiced was them tearing and giving Alvarez rest. Why are you guys creating other issues to argue with. If the head trainer isn't concerned about it shouldn't you as a fan be ok with it?
                  How did you come to that conclusion? The head trainer isn't concerned about it. The were concerned enough to file a complaint.

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                  • TonyGe
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                    #239
                    Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
                    They don't consider the wear and tear. It's the weight and location of the padding. 10 ounces. Also, when did NSAC make a final ruling. Loeffler said he thinks Alvarez has to use traditional. That's not a ruling.

                    Is it possible a legit manufacturer made the No Boxing No life brand of gloves? Think about that instead of how this just can't be allowed.
                    Dude it's also the quality of the padding, the leather used, the stitching and how the laces sit on the glove. Ok then who is it that makes the gloves??? Anything is possible but the NASC said no for a reason. What reason would that be??

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                    • fernandtg
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                      #240
                      Originally posted by j.razor
                      You making up a whole lot of excuses. Must suck to be a ******ed loser like yourself.
                      So actually knowing wth is inside of different kind og gloves is now an excuse? What a freaking imbecile.

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