Comments Thread For: Showtime, Premier Boxing Champions Finalize New 3-Year Deal

[IMDAZED]

There's not going to 8-10 FOX cards though. 6-8 were the rumors, but likely around 6 than 8. UFC was only getting 4 big FOX cards a year.

No one knows if FOX is paying for a bigger deal or not. And even so, it may be they want more dates on FS1, not necessarily on FOX. If SHO was already paying around 45-50 million for PBC rights fees, you would think that number only increases with this new extension.

I never said FOX wouldn't get good cards, they will. But I don't see SHO getting FS1 level cards. Not at all. They will put around 15-20 cards, far more than what FOX will be on their big network. You don't do that to get lesser level cards.

Stop listening to the rumors. They don’t know the # of cards.

[greeneye99]

Which is why the time buys were so critical. Haymon had to invent leverage where there was none. Before PBC, the options were HBO and Showtime. He jumped to Showtime, got blackballed from HBO, and was at risk of being at Showtime's mercy from then on if he didn't do something drastic to turn the paradigm upside down.

Clearly Haymon didn't expect to convince every network to buy content after the time buys, and he didn't need to. Ending up with a big FOX deal, while simultaneously getting SHO to give a bigger deal too, is really the best case scenario he could have hoped for here.

He could have had the ESPN deal, but ESPN wanted exclusivity (Fox did too btw, but he got them to cave). The ESPN deal was a life saver for TR, but when that deal eventually runs up, TR will have nowhere else to go, so they'll be at ESPN's mercy. Haymon is the only one here with a safe future.

Your post are soo biased against HBO and Top Rank its unreal
In a few years ******ing will be the normal way to view boxing
Don't worry about Arum his company is flourishing
Check the ttendance at these Pbc shows

[greeneye99]

Well it certainly didnt 'take over' anything. Looks like showtime saved the pbc. And hey im glad they did. I always wanted it to succeed. But lets not get all delusional. Pretty obvious what happened

Finally someone that see thru the BS
Showtime came to PBC rescue

[greeneye99]

lol DAZN is screwed now. can't sign pbc fighters when pbc has more events coming.

Jokes on you
All PBC fighters are available to fight none are contract to only fight with PBC events
Example
Daniel Jacobs

[The Big Dunn]

what?? Isn't PBC dead?

[MasterPlan]

Jokes on you
All PBC fighters are available to fight none are contract to only fight with PBC events
Example
Daniel Jacobs

Actually Jacobs is the only one with an exclusive network deal with HBO.
And I think Jarrell Miller, Jesse Vargas with DAZN.
Not sure about Amir Khan, Beterbiev, and a few others.

[greeneye99]

Haymon has more dates, for more money, than ever. Haymon has more world champions than ever. Haymon has a higher percentage of the top US stars than ever. HBO boxing is on the brink of death. Main Events is on the brink of death. Golden Boy has one fighter and will be on the brink of death after him.

Haymon is in a stronger position than ever.

Are you a boxing fan?
Or
Just a Al Haymon PBC Showtime fan
You should want ESPN HBO to win always predicting doom n gloom
I just wanna see good fights on any platform
Smh

[greeneye99]

Not a fan of non Premium TV fights due to the low production value, constant commercials, constant censorship of the corners, and the lame commentators.

But hey, broke boys gotta get their fix somehow

Lolololol...i feel ya

[Boxing Hero]

More predictable fights from PBC. Every fight they have is predictable!

[slu]

Few things. Your right could be in the neighborhood of 6-8, I'm hearing 8-10 based on add buys but your right could be 6. Difference with UFC is Al does WAY less PPV. Dana is running a PPV a month and that ****** the life out of the network shows. Al will do some PPV, he will have to but not one a month. FS1 cards I'd guess will improve vs what they were doing when PBC was buying airtime (I would make them if I was Fox and I'm paying a rights fee). So your right, Showtime and FS1 will have fights that are similar to what we have seen on Showtime but with more dates, probably some lessor fights on FS1 but overall better than what's been on there. Lastly, I would SERIOUSLY doubt showtime is paying more. I'd guess it's same (basically there boxing budget went to Al anyway). No way CBS is shelling out more money now with Viacom problems. But still a huge win for Al because he formalizes it vs. a handshake so his investors have to be happy because it creates real value and certainty of revenue (for the fighters too). I hear Fox is paying a real rights deal (my guess is your 45-50 number is close enough) AND Fox covers all the expenses and shoulder programming. That's a huge win for PBC (and Fox for that matter, I mean let's say they are paying $50, that's signifcantly less than UFC and the numbers are comparable to better depending on fight quality).