Comments Thread For: Hearn: Joshua Would Like Wilder, But No Interest in Time Waster

[KnickTillDeaTh]

You just made half of that up and if any of them 'details' were mentioned it was verbally like Hearn verbally said the Wilder fight would be next. Also they said the 50 mil was probably legit not that the offer was good, they didn't know the full offer. They took 20 days as details were not being provided like there was some deception going on, meetings cancelled and all.

'Details' are still coming out now, at the time there was no rematch clause according to Finkel but Frank Warrens just come out saying he was involved and there was 30 mil rematch so clearly some big details have been left out if true or it was just a smear campain on AJ?

Sure. All the articles are on boxing scene, bad left hook, even articles on UK news, direct quotes. You're a fan boy, it's ok. Sorry I waisted my time. Thought I was talking to someone who was a little more level headed, guess you're just faking.

https://www-telegraph-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/boxing/2018/05/22/anthony-joshua-will-turn-37m-fight-deontay-wilder-us-insist

Hearn saying AJ is turning down $50 million offer for his fans,
"AJ’s not really swayed by an extra £10m or £15m. He’d rather do the fight over here in front of his fans."

Hearn admitting Wilders offer was good, "AJ will have to take a pay cut to fight in the UK and I don’t think he’s that bothered. The offer that they made, if that was open to a UK fight, we would have signed immediately. But obviously, they want to pay the money to get AJ to Wilder’s back yard. At the moment we’re all still talking and communication continues. But there is a feeling from our camp this undisputed fight should be in the UK.

"Rob who is trainer, manager and an ex-fighter, knows the advantage of being at home..."

Hearn says deal at 70%, " Asked how likely the fight was to be agreed, Hearn exclusively told Sky Sports: “70 percent.”"

https://www.boxingscene.com/joshua-wilder-hearn-reveals-postitive-talks-70-chance-deal--127770

Finkle confirming the term sheet they sent AJ was for a fight in Vegas
https://www.worl dboxingnews.net/2018062724369/news/exclusive-details-of-us-offer-emerge-anthony-joshua-stood-to-make-over-50m-for-las-vegas-ppv-fight-with-deontay-wilder

And I can keep going. You don't know what you're talking about.

[Noelanthony]

IMDAZED is solid and knowledgeable

the Joshua/Wilder banter does the same thing as the Golovkin banter lol

True true..

[P to the J]

I pick Joshua to beat Wilder, but only if he attacks. Too robotic to try and box Wilder for 12 rounds.

Well, I agree, my prediction is conditional on his pre-Takam performances. McCracken laid into him after his Wlad knockdown and flawed performance all round - we all know it was sheer blunt force and youth that got him through that contest.

He has been fighting behind the jab since which is well and good, but there’s a way to go on the offensive but retain the improved fundamentals and smarter defence that he’s been working on.

[P to the J]

This is why the best is suppose to fight the best.. in there prime so the lineal championship can always keep the bar high.. so, based on the current batch of heavyweights Wilder is the best of the bunch.

Wilder has had one test so far. If you can call him the best based on his opposition to date then I don’t know what to tell you.
The Lineal championship is a false barometer at times, I’m afraid to say. Had he fought and beat Fury not long after his Wlad win, I would drive to Alabama and give him the no.1 HW status myself but Tyson Fury is like Elvis in ‘77.

[5000boxing]

Wilder has had one test so far. If you can call him the best based on his opposition to date then I don’t know what to tell you.
The Lineal championship is a false barometer at times, I’m afraid to say. Had he fought and beat Fury not long after his Wlad win, I would drive to Alabama and give him the no.1 HW status myself but Tyson Fury is like Elvis in ‘77.

Lmao.. you can always find a reason to discredit Wilder.. yawl even go as far to say all Wilder has is a right hand.. lmao.. that's all he needs!

[P to the J]

Lmao.. you can always find a reason to discredit Wilder.. yawl even go as far to say all Wilder has is a right hand.. lmao.. that's all he needs!

Well in my defence, it’s not my fault that he’s got it all to prove.
You know whose fault it is? His management collective for not letting him off the leash sooner. I’ve dismissed his record and I’ve dismissed his boxing ability, but his win against Ortiz was superb. What’s to say he couldn’t have proved me and other naysayers wrong and pulled similar feats against other live opponents?
He could have been where he is now in 25 fights. Not 40 and not without a single mandatory defence to his name.

[aboutfkntime]

Just saying plenty of fights have marinated much longer than this...I don't understand wilder fans sudden anxiety when it comes to this fight. If this was canelo and his team holding out on ggg, you'd suddenly remember how the business of boxing works.

I said that right from the start, that fight aint due yet..... and I could not care less if it happens in April or not

and tbh, I don't care who wins

I also stated that Joshua aint scared of anyone, this simply boils down to timing..... they are OBVIOUSLY milking the Joshua-cow dry, before facing the super-dangerous Wilder

my point was.....

1) a select few Joshua fans are attempting to make silly excuses to justify why he does not want that fight

2) the very worst of those select few are attempting to blame Wilder..... or saying BOTH of them are at fault lol

you fangirls should just shut it, instead of making silly excuses like you did below.....

These "negotiations" were clearly posturing...if wilder had accepted hearn's offer as you say, we'd be talking about wilder vs whyte possibly in the uk. Hearn had no intention of making the fight right away and was hoping he could get wilder to do his part to build the fight and increase his market value, but wilder didn't wanna do anything but get paid more than he's worth. This fury fight should solve all that hopefully...just too bad fury has to be the sacrificial lamb, cuz now the winner of the wilder vs aj fight will have nowhere to go other than a rematch.

i think we'll get the fight in April and I favor wilder.

it is CLEARLY obvious who wants that fight now, and who does not

[Real King Kong]

I said that right from the start, that fight aint due yet..... and I could not care less if it happens in April or not

and tbh, I don't care who wins

I also stated that Joshua aint scared of anyone, this simply boils down to timing..... they are OBVIOUSLY milking the Joshua-cow dry, before facing the super-dangerous Wilder

my point was.....

1) a select few Joshua fans are attempting to make silly excuses to justify why he does not want that fight

2) the very worst of those select few are attempting to blame Wilder..... or saying BOTH of them are at fault lol

you fangirls should just shut it, instead of making silly excuses like you did below.....





it is CLEARLY obvious who wants that fight now, and who does not

Lol...you believe whatever you want my friend. I like how you preface your opinion with a rant about how unbiased you are like it somehow adds validity.

When both sides want to make the fight it will happen, plain and simple. Do I think wilder would have taken the fight? Yes, but only under the conditions that suited him, which obviously wasn't being offered by Hearn so he went his own way. All this back and forth and media "negotiating" just serves to add to the hype when the fight happens. I don't really care for the hw division in general, but this fight has the potential to be the biggest event the hw division has seen in a long time.

[aboutfkntime]

Lol...you believe whatever you want my friend. I like how you preface your opinion with a rant about how unbiased you are like it somehow adds validity.

When both sides want to make the fight it will happen, plain and simple. Do I think wilder would have taken the fight? Yes, but only under the conditions that suited him, which obviously wasn't being offered by Hearn so he went his own way. All this back and forth and media "negotiating" just serves to add to the hype when the fight happens. I don't really care for the hw division in general, but this fight has the potential to be the biggest event the hw division has seen in a long time.

the fact is..... I said that fight aint due yet long before you did, on a number of threads

and I have also stated on numerous occasions that I like both guys

nothing you said changes the fact that they are obviously milking the Joshua-cow dry before getting in there with the super-dangerous Wilder

I am not a fanboy of either guy, Tyson Fury is my favorite heavyweight, and if he has his way Wilder/Joshua will never happen anyway

I am not invested in either guy, nor in Fury, therefore I have no reason to ignore the obvious..... but, why are you ignoring the obvious?

I know exactly what Team Joshua are doing, and it makes a lot of sense business-wise..... like Barry Hearn said this morning, they would be fools to make that fight now..... I just find it hard to listen to silly cvnts throwing Wilder under a bus to cover up the fact that Joshua will not step up..... like the pac-clowns did with Mayweather..... and like the golov-clowns did with Ward

I don't understand that fanboy bullshht

edit: for proof, see my earlier thoughts in the post below

[aboutfkntime]

Lol...you believe whatever you want my friend. I like how you preface your opinion with a rant about how unbiased you are like it somehow adds validity.

When both sides want to make the fight it will happen, plain and simple. Do I think wilder would have taken the fight? Yes, but only under the conditions that suited him, which obviously wasn't being offered by Hearn so he went his own way. All this back and forth and media "negotiating" just serves to add to the hype when the fight happens. I don't really care for the hw division in general, but this fight has the potential to be the biggest event the hw division has seen in a long time.

this is NOT the first time I made such comments, I could likely find an even earlier post on this subject

we differ on ONE thing, who is at fault/and why.....

I am keeping it 100% real, as always..... but you are not.....

it is clearly obvious who is holding that fight up



29/6/2018

firstly, I agree.....

but my thoughts are slightly different

1) Hearn/Joshua are clearly avoiding that fight

2) Joshua is a fkn beast, and he WILL face Wilder when he is ready, I have no doubt about that..... I do not believe that Joshua fears any man, other than the healthy invigorating fear to which he is accustomed

3) Joshua/Hearn are ALL business at this point, especially with the super DANGEROUS Wilder..... which is smart, because with most of the fickle/ignorant observers in this era, you get ONE chance..... ONE!!

considering those points, the questions are.....

* should Joshua be blamed for what is likely a common-sense, and somewhat understandable decision/plan.....?

* should it affect his legacy at this point, and is it justification for fans to burn effigies of him at the stake?

the answers to those questions are actually more important/relevant than Lewis' comments were

* should Joshua be blamed for what is likely a common-sense, and somewhat understandable decision/plan.....?

A. Absolutely, who the fk else is there to blame? come on lol

the (his) fans should be needling Joshua..... and asking him whats up..... and they should be supportive of Wilder

Wilder made genuine attempts to fight the long-standing world #2 (Povetkin) long before Joshua did..... and Ortiz was a dangerous fight with little upside

Joshua is clearly to blame, and he should be held responsible

and NOPE, Hearn is not the boss..... and he never will be

* should it affect his legacy at this point, and is it justification for fans to burn effigies of him at the stake.....?

NO, of course not....., throwing Joshua under a bus would be silly, it is clearly obvious what they are doing

he should be blamed for avoiding that fight, no question.....

but they are OBVIOUSLY setting up that fight for the SHORT-TERM..... we will not see 5 years of "marination"..... it is obviously a smart business decision, and aside from what the 8-minute-attention-span (casual) fans say, the total potential appeal for that fight has not peaked as yet

we have waited much longer for much bigger fights

my thoughts.....

1) I will continue to support BOTH guys, as I usually do in these situations..... (fk off Golovkin fans lol, your boy bull****ted me/boxing for YEARS, even I have my limits)..... BOTH are terrific fighters who I enjoy watching.....

2) NO WAY can you hold Joshua over Wilder at this point..... I do not care how many titles Joshua has, I do not care how many fans Joshua has, and I do not care that he beat Klitschko..... Wilder is just as relevant at heavyweight, and no matter which way you swing that is close to a 50/50 fight

I will go further on that..... Wilder is actually MORE relevant than Joshua, because he wants that fight NOW

I will continue to needle AJ, and I will continue to ask him whats up..... like his other fans should be doing..... and until that fight happens, I will consider Wilder the #1 heavyweight on the planet..... simply because, he wants that fight NOW

hard luck AJ, you know what to do about it

WAR Wilder..... WAR Joshua !!

when it happens..... may the best man win !

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