Is Dillian Whyte a bigger draw than Deontay Wilder?

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  • Tom Cruise
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    #61
    Originally posted by IMDAZED
    The funny thing about this argument about Whyte being as good a draw as Wilder is that if they ever fought, Whyte would probably get 30%. Not because he isn't a champ (if you're a draw, it doesn't matter), but because the two are on different levels popularity-wise.
    Actually being a champ matters massively. Wilder has something Whyte wants, that is leverage

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      #62
      Originally posted by Tom Cruise
      Actually being a champ matters massively. Wilder has something Whyte wants, that is leverage
      Canelo has no belt yet he's making more money than GGG. Mayweather didn't have a belt when he fought Mosley and made more. If you're a draw, you're a draw. Whyte brings NOTHING to the table, that's why he'd get around 30%.

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        #63
        Originally posted by Tom Cruise
        Again though, known =/= drawing power.
        Yeah that doesn't change anything I said.

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          #64
          Originally posted by IMDAZED
          Canelo has no belt yet he's making more money than GGG. Mayweather didn't have a belt when he fought Mosley and made more. If you're a draw, you're a draw. Whyte brings NOTHING to the table, that's why he'd get around 30%.
          But GGG and Mosley likely got more than they were technically worth due to having a belt (or 3). Just cos it’s still less doesn’t mean it’s not more than they would have got.

          If you think belts don’t matter you need to do some research. These guys don’t pay sanctioning fees for nothing

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            #65
            Originally posted by IMDAZED
            Yeah that doesn't change anything I said.
            It means despite being ‘known’, people aren’t buying tickets to a Wilder fight over here.

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              #66
              Originally posted by Tom Cruise
              But GGG and Mosley likely got more than they were technically worth due to having a belt (or 3). Just cos it’s still less doesn’t mean it’s not more than they would have got.

              If you think belts don’t matter you need to do some research. These guys don’t pay sanctioning fees for nothing
              Strawman. I never said belts don't matter. Try again.

              What I said was that Whyte brings NOTHING to the table. Even if he didn't have a belt and was a draw, he would get more. He doesn't even bring that. He brings NOTHING. But he's a star in the UK.

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                #67
                Originally posted by Tom Cruise
                It means despite being ‘known’, people aren’t buying tickets to a Wilder fight over here.
                Even you don't believe the same people who bought tickets to Parker-Whyte wouldn't do the same if it was Wilder-Parker instead.

                You really believe that? Be honest.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED
                  Strawman. I never said belts don't matter. Try again.

                  What I said was that Whyte brings NOTHING to the table. Even if he didn't have a belt and was a draw, he would get more. He doesn't even bring that. He brings NOTHING. But he's a star in the UK.
                  His last fight pulled £10mill ($13mill) in PPV revenue, plus advertising (yeah we got adverts on ppvs over here, yes it is ridiculous). But yeah being a star in the UK brings nothing to the table

                  This is honestly getting boring now. I’ve already admitted ages ago that Wilder the bigger draw. Just funny that you can’t admit they are close
                  Last edited by Tom Cruise; 08-29-2018, 09:15 AM.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by IMDAZED
                    Even you don't believe the same people who bought tickets to Parker-Whyte wouldn't do the same if it was Wilder-Parker instead.

                    You really believe that? Be honest.
                    Some would, majority wouldn’t. You don’t understand our market and why would you? I’m from here you aren’t.

                    If you think Wilder sells 20k tickets at the o2 versus Parker you are mental.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Tom Cruise
                      His last fight pulled £10mill ($13mill) in PPV revenue, plus advertising (yeah we got adverts on ppvs over here, yes it is ridiculous). But yeah being a star in the UK brings nothing to the table

                      This is honestly getting boring now. I’ve already admitted ages ago that Wilder the bigger draw. Just funny that you can’t admit they are close despite the numbers.
                      All that and he’d be lucky to get 30% against Wilder. Guess that doesn’t mean much.

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