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  • #51
    Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Post
    maybe if you read the full debate you'd understand the reason I'm speaking about his weight. Someone posted that Canelo is a blown up welterweight. As ridiculous as many of your Canelo loving comments are, surely you can't believe that he's a blown up welterweight when he hasn't made that weight since he was a teenager.
    Correct i agree with you that he isnt a welterweight. But let's be honest, Your comments imply that canelo has the weight advantage over most his opponents which I can also agree on. Ggg isn't one of them though. This is Canelos 2nd fight ever at the full 160 pound limit. This is ggg's 400+... Who has the advantage here? Regardless of what they actually weigh on fight night? I think we both are smart enough to know ggg has the advantage there.no no debate

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    • #52
      Originally posted by dibzvincent143 View Post
      In case you didn’t know athletes grow, especially if they started young. Hell if they didn’t pac would still be at flyweight and floyd at lightweight.

      Canelo walks around 180 plus.
      He can’t even make 154lbs for years now. But you’re referring to him as blown up welter? Loooool!!! Funniest thing I’ve read all day.

      Floyd had like 20 plus KOs at lightweight and below. Is he a blown up lightweight as well?
      Kell Brook walks around 180 as well and he fights 2 divisions lower. ggg walks around at 190-200lbs. Here is ggg next to Murat Gassiev who is like 230 in this pic, he's not this small middleweight no matter how much you try to convince yourself




      Even against Jacobs he was not that much smaller:




      Canelo made 154 vs Smith 1 year before he fought ggg. The last time ggg could make 154 was probably close to a decade ago.

      And yes, Mayweather is naturally a smaller fighter, his knockouts all but disappeared at the higher weights just like Canelo's. I brought up Jean Pascal as the perfect analogy, he was at major physical disadvantages vs Kovalev despite appearing to be the bigger fighter.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Post
        16 pounds? He gained 20 for the angulo fight yrs ago the stopped getting on the scale on fight day. He clearly puts on around 20 per fight. Then gets busted for taking an illegal substance that helps with cutting weight. Don't be gullible. You saying he's a natural welter weight is absurd. By your logic Pacquiao is a blown up flyweight.
        Canelo was 170, it was Angulo that was 174, Dan Rafael or Showtime had the graphic mixed up which was pointed out by the fans:

        https://twitter.com/danrafaelespn/st...305666?lang=en

        It's not all that unusual to put on 16lbs of water weight, Angulo put on more weight after all, even Kirland came in 173 vs Ishida who was 169.

        When a guy drops 20lbs of water weight you can see it, that is a major weight loss like Chavez always did



        Like I said, Canelo looked much healthier at 160 compared to ggg has in numerous fights at 160.

        You can see it in his face, his cheeks, temples, even his body itself
        Last edited by Cutthroat; 08-27-2018, 11:05 AM.

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        • #54
          I can understand what GGG says but it's been a while and if Canelo didn't hit hard enough to get his respect, he would have knocked him out. Let's not forget that Canelo was most likely doping as well though.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Cutthroat View Post
            I mean Canelo is a blown up welter after all lol, his knock out ratio is only 70% and like 95% of those fights have occurred at 154 and below. It'll just make it that more embarassing if Canelo actually knocks him out when he couldn't even put away the corpse of Chavez.

            Canelo pieced him up real good in the first fight, clearly landed the best shots, but at the end of the day he's just not that big a puncher.
            So he's been fighting at above 154 lbs for ten years but he's a blown up WW? Got ya.

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            • #56
              I wonder who GGG feels was the hardest puncher he fought.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Robi13 View Post
                Correct i agree with you that he isnt a welterweight. But let's be honest, Your comments imply that canelo has the weight advantage over most his opponents which I can also agree on. Ggg isn't one of them though. This is Canelos 2nd fight ever at the full 160 pound limit. This is ggg's 400+... Who has the advantage here? Regardless of what they actually weigh on fight night? I think we both are smart enough to know ggg has the advantage there.no no debate
                It's not 400+ because Golovkin at 18 was a Junior Welterweight. The same weight class Canelo was in at 18 but it's hundreds for sure.

                2000 won the Junior World Championships in Budapest, Hungary as a Light Welterweight. Results were:
                Defeated Hao Yen Kuo (Chinese Taipei) RSC-3
                Defeated Alexander Renz (Germany) PTS (26–7)
                Defeated Benjamin Kalinovic (Croatia) PTS (21–10)
                Defeated Evgeni Putilov (Russia) PTS (24–10)
                Defeated Maikel Perez (Cuba) PTS (30–17)

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Cutthroat View Post
                  Canelo was 170, it was Angulo that was 174, Dan Rafael or Showtime had the graphic mixed up which was pointed out by the fans:

                  https://twitter.com/danrafaelespn/st...305666?lang=en

                  It's not all that unusual to put on 16lbs of water weight, Angulo put on more weight after all, even Kirland came in 173 vs Ishida who was 169.

                  When a guy drops 20lbs of water weight you can see it, that is a major weight loss like Chavez always did



                  Like I said, Canelo looked much healthier at 160 compared to ggg has in numerous fights at 160.

                  You can see it in his face, his cheeks, temples, even his body itself
                  https://twitter.com/danrafaelespn/status/442528943640305666?s=19

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by TonyGe View Post
                    It's not 400+ because Golovkin at 18 was a Junior Welterweight. The same weight class Canelo was in at 18 but it's hundreds for sure.

                    2000 won the Junior World Championships in Budapest, Hungary as a Light Welterweight. Results were:
                    Defeated Hao Yen Kuo (Chinese Taipei) RSC-3
                    Defeated Alexander Renz (Germany) PTS (26–7)
                    Defeated Benjamin Kalinovic (Croatia) PTS (21–10)
                    Defeated Evgeni Putilov (Russia) PTS (24–10)
                    Defeated Maikel Perez (Cuba) PTS (30–17)
                    Nice info. I dont know the exact numbers but I'm sure most hus amateur fights were at 160 and he had over 300. Then throw in his 40 pro fights and we talking about a fighter who has 350 fights at m
                    160 vs a fighter that is going into his 2nd fight ever at 160.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Robi13 View Post
                      Nice info. I dont know the exact numbers but I'm sure most hus amateur fights were at 160 and he had over 300. Then throw in his 40 pro fights and we talking about a fighter who has 350 fights at m
                      160 vs a fighter that is going into his 2nd fight ever at 160.
                      Not sure exactly how many fights he had Middle but for sure it's a lot. I do know that at the same age they were in the same weight class.

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