Comments Thread For: Golovkin Didn't Feel 'Real Power' From Canelo; Only Felt Slaps

[Cutthroat]

And Mike tyson belonged at middleweight.

Mike Tyson had the frame of a HW, he was 200lbs by like age 13.

ggg has the frame of a MW, Canelo that of a super welter/jmw.

Just because a guy packs on a lot of muscle doesn't mean they're the bigger fighter.

Jean Pascal is a perfect example of that, he was built like a tank vs Kovalev:



But was completely overwhelmed by the naturally bigger man:



If the majority of your career fights occur at a single weight, that makes it your natural weight. If the majority of your fights occur at a lower weight and you're moving up, that is unnatural.

[dibzvincent143]

This is not a natural MW:




He's a blown up welter that put on way too much muscle, it certainly didn't serve him well against Lara, Cotto, Trout, etc. His most notable knockout in his entire career has literally been Liam Smith at 154. Angulo, Khan, Kirkland, Cintron were all previously knocked out.

Even Jarrett Hurd at 154 is bigger, actual MW's look like ggg, Jacobs, BJS, etc. which are rare these days. If Canelo had fought a decade earlier he'd have been fighting monster middles like 6'1 Hopkins, 6'2 Pavlik, 6'1 Taylor, even Abraham as small as he was is much bigger.

In case you didn’t know athletes grow, especially if they started young. Hell if they didn’t pac would still be at flyweight and floyd at lightweight.

Canelo walks around 180 plus.
He can’t even make 154lbs for years now. But you’re referring to him as blown up welter? Loooool!!! Funniest thing I’ve read all day.

Floyd had like 20 plus KOs at lightweight and below. Is he a blown up lightweight as well?

[SplitSecond]

Says who?? A clown like you? ��

Just how the human brain works. Most of you can barely register the landed headshots, unless the bodyshots are picture perfect you're not gonna take note of it, especially if the guy is getting his head churned. Body shots should be strategically placed for the later round results, it shouldn't be the focus of point gaining even if it can. It will usually take landing a good number more for better odds on taking a round primarily on bodyshots.

[Jab jab boom]

Links??? You and your excuses as always your a GROWN man who sure cries a lot.

links to what? Do it yourself. Check on box rec the last time he made 147 and check his fight day weights on Google. For the fights he actually was willing to step on the scale on fight day because ever since he got exposed for coming in mid 170s vs angulo he stopped getting on the scale.

[Jab jab boom]

I'm not talking about just height, I posted a side pic for a reason, look at the thickness of ggg's body compared to Canelo's.

There was a significantly bigger size disparity compared to Cotto-Canelo and that's saying something because Cotto is naturally the smaller man. Cotto fought at 130 in the amateurs, 57% of his pro fights were at 140.



You can even see in ggg's face/body, he looked bone dry like Canelo last did when he fought at 154 against Smith. Canelo looked healthy at 160 which gave the appearance he was bigger.

If you can't tell the difference you need your eyes checked, seriously. ggg's body is thicker, he's taller, he's fought 100% of his fights at MW, and he looked dry compared to Canelo.

Do you think ggg could make 154 like Canelo did against Smith?

Canelo averages around 16lbs during rehydration, that is not that much compared to guys like Chavez who put on upwards of 20lbs.

16 pounds? He gained 20 for the angulo fight yrs ago the stopped getting on the scale on fight day. He clearly puts on around 20 per fight. Then gets busted for taking an illegal substance that helps with cutting weight. Don't be gullible. You saying he's a natural welter weight is absurd. By your logic Pacquiao is a blown up flyweight.

[Thraxox]

Hes too ****** to figure that out.

I think you are too ****** to realize that size is based on weight. The fact that you call Canelo a blown up welterweight speaks levels on how much you know about the sport.

[Robi13]

links to what? Do it yourself. Check on box rec the last time he made 147 and check his fight day weights on Google. For the fights he actually was willing to step on the scale on fight day because ever since he got exposed for coming in mid 170s vs angulo he stopped getting on the scale.

If anyone makes weight the day of the weigh in, they can come into fight night at whatever weight they want. I never can understand how thats a problem to you or anyone that says a fighter "walks around, or fight night weighs at... " so the phuck what? Its within the rules

[markther]

Everyone knows I don’t like Canelo. But I will try to be very objective. I think this is a mistake by GGG to assume Canelo doesn’t have real power at middleweight. No one really knows if his power traveled up to Middleweight yet. And it is safe to assume, Canelo really didn’t sit down on his punches in the 1st fight to have the best leverage on his power shots. He boxed quite a bit and for most of the fight, he fired off balance where he couldn’t carry the momentum all the way through his power shots like he has done against other opponents. And this is the same dude that completely knocked out James Kirkland at “junior middleweight.”

With that being said, Canelo couldn’t hurt or knock down or TKO both Cotto or Chavez Jr in “middleweight division fights.” Or for that matter, he couldn’t drop or TKO or hurt GGG in the 1st fight. So just looking at Canelo’s (3) middleweight fights, he couldn’t hurt anyone, not Cotto, not Chavez Jr, not GGG. On record it states Khan was a middleweight fight, but every knowledgeable boxing fan knows Khan was a welterweight coming up that had a weak chin already.

I would be “very surprised” if Canelo can hurt or drop GGG. Sugar Ray Leonard was a strong puncher but he couldn’t hurt or drop Hagler at “Middleweight.” But he did TKO Ayub Kalule earlier at Junior Middleweight. But Leonard could do enough to halt Hagler from coming forward in certain spots throughout the fight. That’s how I see this fight. Canelo has enough on his shots, to disrupt the flow of GGG but not to KO him. GGG has never been down or hurt his entire career. Can Canelo?

[Jab jab boom]

If anyone makes weight the day of the weigh in, they can come into fight night at whatever weight they want. I never can understand how thats a problem to you or anyone that says a fighter "walks around, or fight night weighs at... " so the phuck what? Its within the rules

maybe if you read the full debate you'd understand the reason I'm speaking about his weight. Someone posted that Canelo is a blown up welterweight. As ridiculous as many of your Canelo loving comments are, surely you can't believe that he's a blown up welterweight when he hasn't made that weight since he was a teenager.

[MrRolltide91]

Why not walk through the punches?