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Hearn: Thank god we didn't take $50m. Next year we may be looking at making $200m

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  • #51
    Basically it's like this

    Team Wilder: "Take the $50m but on OUR terms"

    Team Hearn: "We'll take it but, but on OUR terms"

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    • #52
      Originally posted by ukbox View Post
      What we've seen is the value of the fight skyrocket. It proves Wilder is no mug & understands the value he brings to the unification

      We could potentially see the winner of wilder fury becoming the moneymaker at heavyweight. AJ casuals will follow the wilder fury fight, some will jump ship. You only have to listen to the boos at a hearn event whenever hearn speaks to know most think he's a fat cünt
      If Wilder v Fury is a good fight that Wilder wins obviously Wilder himself is in a better position to command more money.

      Honestly though there's no chance of Wilder or Fury being the moneymaker after this fight. This one event is going to boost the kitties of Wilder and Fury a lot but do you honestly think that outside of this fight and the other mega fight that it's going to increase Wilder's income that much? It will increase his popularity no doubt, but will it increase it enough to allow him to be PPV at all times in the US (which is obviously where the money is)? i don't think so.

      If Hearn/Joshua duck the April date and Wilder faces Breazeale can you honestly tell me that that fight could be PPV in the US and do well?

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      • #53
        Originally posted by Deus View Post
        If Wilder v Fury is a good fight that Wilder wins obviously Wilder himself is in a better position to command more money.

        Honestly though there's no chance of Wilder or Fury being the moneymaker after this fight. This one event is going to boost the kitties of Wilder and Fury a lot but do you honestly think that outside of this fight and the other mega fight that it's going to increase Wilder's income that much? It will increase his popularity no doubt, but will it increase it enough to allow him to be PPV at all times in the US (which is obviously where the money is)? i don't think so.

        If Hearn/Joshua duck the April date and Wilder faces Breazeale can you honestly tell me that that fight could be PPV in the US and do well?
        I think it will, you think back to us ppv stars & you think of a few American guys. Floyd people wanted to see lose. Oscar people wanted to see kitchen ****. Tyson people wanted to see ko someone, anyone

        If wilder wins by ko with a massive audience fans know what they'll get when watching next time

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        • #54
          Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
          This makes no sense. Sounds like you’re moving the goal post.

          Hearn/Joshua were offered $50mill, Hearn didn’t believe it, so he flew to NY to talk to Finkel, $50 mill offer was confirmed by Hearn. What’s so hard to understand about that?

          https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.for...nd-friday/amp/
          Did you even read the article you linked to?

          It's just an old report about Finkle offering AJ a $50million guarantee, with a 24 hour take it or leave it deadline.

          Not one word from Eddie Hearn confirming that the money was there.
          Last edited by kafkod; 08-26-2018, 02:59 PM.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Illmatic94 View Post
            Lol what a big ol sissy

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Laligalaliga View Post
              You always want to come up with excuses but unfortunately am not buying all that crap.
              What you label "excuses" would be considered "reasons" by a reasonable man since you can't dispute any of them.


              While he's was champ, there were two other champs plus two vacant belts
              When Wilder won his world title, Klitschko held the other three world titles and was already committed to fighting Jennings. Then Klitschko lost all his titles to Fury and Fury vacated all of his titles. As a world champion, Wilder was ineligible to fight for any of the vacant titles.

              Because the WBA is the most blatantly greedy of the four recognized titles, they gifted their BS super title to the AJ/Klitschko winner. Wilder's purses weren't large enough for the WBA to do that for him.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
                What you label "excuses" would be considered "reasons" by a reasonable man since you can't dispute any of them.




                When Wilder won his world title, Klitschko held the other three world titles and was already committed to fighting Jennings. Then Klitschko lost all his titles to Fury and Fury vacated all of his titles. As a world champion, Wilder was ineligible to fight for any of the vacant titles.

                Because the WBA is the most blatantly greedy of the four recognized titles, they gifted their BS super title to the AJ/Klitschko winner.
                Wilder's purses weren't large enough for the WBA to do that for him.

                And you think someone that has 50mil purse is not large enough to sway the hands of WBA?
                Let's not deceive ourselves, we both know the truth. So many things is wrong about wilder and 50mil.

                From his average pay of 1.5mil
                Quality of fighters
                No ppv
                So many managers/promoters/editors and Co.
                Excusing him from lively opponents
                Targeting unfit fighters.

                Just tired.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Laligalaliga View Post
                  Wilder's purses weren't large enough for the WBA to do that for him.
                  Correct. If Wilder generated the kind of money AJ does, he might have been able to lobby to fight the WBA's mandatory for the vacant title. It'd still be highly unusual, but generally a champion is ineligible to fight for a vacant title, so to criticize Wilder for not going after vacant titles is a very unfair criticism.


                  And you think someone that has 50mil purse is not large enough to sway the hands of WBA?
                  Tell us the scenario where Wilder could have fought for the WBA title.


                  Let's not deceive ourselves, we both know the truth. So many things is wrong about wilder and 50mil.
                  The money was real. Not sure why you're in denial. It was a public offer with a term sheet attached. Showtime confirmed it was real. Hearn confirmed it was real. Finkel confirmed it was real. It was a HUGE risk on the part of Wilder's side, but it was real.


                  From his average pay of 1.5mil
                  You have no idea what he gets paid. So we can stop right there. You don't really think Cotto only got 700k for his retirement fight do you?

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
                    Correct. If Wilder generated the kind of money AJ does, he might have been able to lobby to fight the WBA's mandatory for the vacant title. It'd still be highly unusual, but generally a champion is ineligible to fight for a vacant title, so to criticize Wilder for not going after vacant titles is a very unfair criticism.




                    Tell us the scenario where Wilder could have fought for the WBA title.




                    The money was real. Not sure why you're in denial. It was a public offer with a term sheet attached. Showtime confirmed it was real. Hearn confirmed it was real. Finkel confirmed it was real. It was a HUGE risk on the part of Wilder's side, but it was real.




                    You have no idea what he gets paid. So we can stop right there. You don't really think Cotto only got 700k for his retirement fight do you?
                    Everytime I talk about wilder's pay, you bring up one baby weight fighter up. I have no business with cotto.

                    Is wilder as a champ cannot fight for the vacant WBA, how did AJ as a champ Eligeable?

                    With 50mil, funnel should have enough purse to promote wilder well and put him up for ppv after 40 fights.

                    If I may ask, what is the use of this 50mil? Is it just meant for fixed deposit?

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Laligalaliga View Post
                      Everytime I talk about wilder's pay, you bring up one baby weight fighter up. I have no business with cotto.
                      Answer the question. Do you believe Cotto only got 700k for his retirement fight? Nobody in the industry believes publicly filed figures. Everyone knows they're bogus. Hearn has offered at least a dozen Haymon fighters many multiples of their listed purses and they all laugh at Hearn and say they're already making more than that. So when you say Wilder only makes 1.5 million, you're flat out wrong. You have no idea what you're talking about.


                      Is wilder as a champ cannot fight for the vacant WBA, how did AJ as a champ Eligeable?
                      He wasn't. The WBA wanted the massive sanctioning fee and just did it anyway. One of the benefits of having three world titles. They can make up the rules as they go along and just create extra belts for anyone who complains.


                      With 50mil, funnel should have enough purse to promote wilder well and put him up for ppv after 40 fights.
                      You're not making any sense. Have to have a fight the PPV industry believes is PPV worthy. There hasn't been a successful heavyweight PPV in this country in almost 20 years. That's not Wilder's fault. He's done more than anyone to rebuild the division here and get it back on the verge of PPV after many years where heavyweight title fights weren't even being aired on TV here at all.


                      If I may ask, what is the use of this 50mil? Is it just meant for fixed deposit?
                      AJ asked for 50 million. Showtime wanted the fight, so they agreed to supply it. Not hard to understand.

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