Hearn: Thank god we didn't take $50m. Next year we may be looking at making $200m

[Laligalaliga]

Answer the question. Do you believe Cotto only got 700k for his retirement fight? Nobody in the industry believes publicly filed figures. Everyone knows they're bogus. Hearn has offered at least a dozen Haymon fighters many multiples of their listed purses and they all laugh at Hearn and say they're already making more than that. So when you say Wilder only makes 1.5 million, you're flat out wrong. You have no idea what you're talking about.




He wasn't. The WBA wanted the massive sanctioning fee and just did it anyway. One of the benefits of having three world titles. They can make up the rules as they go along and just create extra belts for anyone who complains.




You're not making any sense. Have to have a fight the PPV industry believes is PPV worthy. There hasn't been a successful heavyweight PPV in this country in almost 20 years. That's not Wilder's fault. He's done more than anyone to rebuild the division here and get it back on the verge of PPV after many years where heavyweight title fights weren't even being aired on TV here at all.




AJ asked for 50 million. Showtime wanted the fight, so they agreed to supply it. Not hard to understand.

Wilder should use that 50mil to promote himself first and be ppv worthy and appear big in the eyes of his audience.
Then he can be bold to offer such to someone else.
How can I give out 50mil when am still earning 1.5mil?
Let's be logical here, if he has never generated 30mil before in any of his fights, how come all of a sudden he can generate 50mil after he got 2.1mil in his last fight.

Just curious...

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Wilder should use that 50mil to promote himself first and be ppv worthy and appear big in the eyes of his audience.

I guess you don't understand how money works. Networks guarantee the purses for giant PPVs. 50 million isn't going into AJ's pocket from Wilder's pocket.

And why do you care if Wilder is a PPV fighter? AJ's money was guaranteed. What's the difference?

[Laligalaliga]

I guess you don't understand how money works. Networks guarantee the purses for giant PPVs. 50 million isn't going into AJ's pocket from Wilder's pocket.

And why do you care if Wilder is a PPV fighter? AJ's money was guaranteed. What's the difference?

Am trying to let you know wilder is not a big fighter the way you want us to believe.
What does it tell you if the network is willing to cough out 50mil for AJ but weee never ready to do 5mil for wilder over his fights?

What ever this fight is generating is 80% cos of AJ.
Money is coming from from every corner just because AJ is involved.

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Am trying to let you know wilder is not a big fighter the way you want us to believe.

Wilder is the biggest American draw in boxing. That's a fact. The numbers clearly show that.

Congratulations to AJ on being a much bigger draw than any American fighter. And? You don't really seem to have any point at all.

[Laligalaliga]

Wilder is the biggest American draw in boxing. That's a fact. The numbers clearly show that.

Congratulations to AJ on being a much bigger draw than any American fighter. And? You don't really seem to have any point at all.

You have made my point.
Congratulations!!

[Manlikefemi]

Answer the question. Do you believe Cotto only got 700k for his retirement fight? Nobody in the industry believes publicly filed figures. Everyone knows they're bogus. Hearn has offered at least a dozen Haymon fighters many multiples of their listed purses and they all laugh at Hearn and say they're already making more than that. So when you say Wilder only makes 1.5 million, you're flat out wrong. You have no idea what you're talking about.




He wasn't. The WBA wanted the massive sanctioning fee and just did it anyway. One of the benefits of having three world titles. They can make up the rules as they go along and just create extra belts for anyone who complains.




You're not making any sense. Have to have a fight the PPV industry believes is PPV worthy. There hasn't been a successful heavyweight PPV in this country in almost 20 years. That's not Wilder's fault. He's done more than anyone to rebuild the division here and get it back on the verge of PPV after many years where heavyweight title fights weren't even being aired on TV here at all.




AJ asked for 50 million. Showtime wanted the fight, so they agreed to supply it. Not hard to understand.

Where would Showtime suddenly get 50M from ? Their Budget is thin for the rest of the year. It's a PPV Projection.

Shelly finkle also said Frank Warren would help with financing the package. This would mean in the Uk, Warren would put the fight on BT Sport. Which is in direct conflict with Matchroom/Hearn and Sky.

The offer was bogus. They were telling Hearn to accept the deal before he got a chance to look at the details such as TV rights and Sponserships

[xhiddenx87]

To think people were on here 24/7 defending this guy.

And NSB does it again. Makes people look stupid all the time

I love that

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Where would Showtime suddenly get 50M from ? Their Budget is thin for the rest of the year. It's a PPV Projection.

Same place they get 100M from when they put on a Floyd fight. Are you seriously doubting Showtime's ability to front the money for PPV guarantees? They've distributed all of the biggest PPVs in history. They have the money to advance the purses.

Shelly finkle also said Frank Warren would help with financing the package. This would mean in the Uk, Warren would put the fight on BT Sport. Which is in direct conflict with Matchroom/Hearn and Sky.

You're falling for Hearn's IFL propaganda. Warren was helping with UK projections throughout the AJ negotiations because he knows the market better than Finkel and could assist Finkel with knowing whether Hearn's numbers were BS or not. The fight would have been on Sky as long as they matched BT's offer.

The offer was bogus.

Not according to Hearn. Not according to Showtime. Not according to AJ. Not according to Finkel. Not according to anybody that would actually know.

They were telling Hearn to accept the deal before he got a chance to look at the details such as TV rights and Sponserships

You're falling for Hearn's IFL propaganda.

They were asking Hearn to agree in principle to the concept of a 50M purse before they started wasting time negotiating TV rights, sponsorships, etc. That is how boxing has always worked. You come to a mutual understanding of the most important detail first (money), and then you sit down to hammer out the smaller details.

[Manlikefemi]

Same place they get 100M from when they put on a Floyd fight. Are you seriously doubting Showtime's ability to front the money for PPV guarantees? They've distributed all of the biggest PPVs in history. They have the money to advance the purses.




You're falling for Hearn's IFL propaganda. Warren was helping with UK projections throughout the AJ negotiations because he knows the market better than Finkel and could assist Finkel with knowing whether Hearn's numbers were BS or not. The fight would have been on Sky as long as they matched BT's offer.




Not according to Hearn. Not according to Showtime. Not according to AJ. Not according to Finkel. Not according to anybody that would actually know.




You're falling for Hearn's IFL propaganda.

They were asking Hearn to agree in principle to the concept of a 50M purse before they started wasting time negotiating TV rights, sponsorships, etc. That is how boxing has always worked. You come to a mutual understanding of the most important detail first (money), and then you sit down to hammer out the smaller details.

Are you seriously comparing Mayweather v Joshua and Wilder ? Mayweather is a PPV star, who Gurantees high numbers. That deal was no risk for Showtime. CBS Financed that deal, because it put a dent on HBO's Boxing Output and meant Showtime would have the biggest star in world boxing.

Joshua-Wilder is no where near that. With Canelo-GGG 2 in September and Mcgregor in October another PPV in November it would seem foolish for SHO to gurantee $50M.

Showtime have never said the money came from them, where has this come from ? Showtime or TV Networks do not get involved in a deal, until the purses, venue and date has been sealed.

No, Hearn didn't say anything about BT Involvement, Warren did. Why would Finkle use Warren to find out about the Uk Market, when the fight was taking place in the US and Sky and Matchroom are the Dominant Boxing Providers in the UK.

Finkle and Warren were going to put the fight on BT which would have been unacceptable. Sky/BT in the UK is similar to HBO/Showtime in the US.

When taking into account Las Vegas Judges and natural American Bias towards Wilder winning in America. It's the correct decision to have this fight in the UK from Joshua and Hearn's perspective. Less money for hometown advantage is worth it

[Songbird]

here we go again, this is worse that the golovkin stuff, i really think a lot of people on this site are so jealous of hearn and joshua and the amount of cash the are making, sad

everyone with half a brain knows that the 50 mil offer is good but it makes much more sense for joshua to fight pov and then wilder in london next year, thats reality