Can we stop this Myth that Arum doesn't work with PBC?

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  • Madison Boxing
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    #11
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
    Yet another example of why you have the reputation you do on this site.

    Arum is on record as saying he will not make the Spence/Crawford fight unless he he has proof it is a a 500k selling PPV. There is a thread about it.

    Yet you are blaming the two fighters for the fight not happening and also implying any poster that blames Arum is doing so because he is white rather than because of what he said.
    Oh yeah cause arum is such a man of his word.....

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #12
      Originally posted by The Madison
      Oh yeah cause arum is such a man of his word.....
      This post implies that because he 's a known liar you feel his statement I posted is a lie.

      If so, do you think he is actually planning to make the fight but that its not being made because Spence and Crawford are not pushing for it?

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        #13
        Forget just PBC, I don't see Arum doing ANY Mega PPV Fights with any other Promoters unless they take a Flat Fee/Purse. Arum made it clear he is not opening his books for no one so you're not going to see Arum do a % Split type of fight. He likes to keep things in house because it = More Money For Him!

        With respect to Arum but I do look forward to the day when Todd Deboef takes over things at Top Rank. I think fights will be made a lot smoother when he is in charge. He knows how stubborn his Father In Law is and I think he will do things a lot different. Say what you want about Eddie but I do think boxing needs more Young Minds with Fresher and more Current Ideas in Position of Power in the Sport and not Old Guys who are stuck in their ways and still be think the Internet USELESS
        Last edited by sicko; 08-24-2018, 02:03 PM.

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          #14
          Originally posted by The Madison
          people have made their mind up that its arum stopping the fight and wont work with other companies. even though he has done in the past, that doesnt matter.
          Arum has operated the same way for decades. Keep things in house whenever possible. Don't risk a big star in a non in house fight unless it's so massive that it'll put millions and millions into Arum's pocket.

          Crawford losing to Spence would be CATASTROPHIC to Arum's business. Why would he do the fight? Makes no sense for him to do that fight.

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            #15
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            This post implies that because he 's a known liar you feel his statement I posted is a lie.

            If so, do you think he is actually planning to make the fight but that its not being made because Spence and Crawford are not pushing for it?
            i dont care. from where im standing i dont see any interest from either spence or crawford. you lot act as if they are desperately calling each other out but its big bad bob whos stopping it. maybe if they actually put pressure on their promoters to make the fight they want, instead of acting like a pair of yes men, they might be more likely to get the fight. that is, if they want the fight, which neither of them do....

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              #16
              Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
              Arum has operated the same way for decades. Keep things in house whenever possible. Don't risk a big star in a non in house fight unless it's so massive that it'll put millions and millions into Arum's pocket.

              Crawford losing to Spence would be CATASTROPHIC to Arum's business. Why would he do the fight? Makes no sense for him to do that fight.
              since when was crawford some massive money maker for top rank. promoters work for fighters not the other way round, name me a time where arum has flat out denied a big fight request for one of his big fighters just cause he refuses to work with someone else, just one.

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                #17
                Originally posted by The Madison
                i dont care. from where im standing i dont see any interest from either spence or crawford. you lot act as if they are desperately calling each other out but its big bad bob whos stopping it. maybe if they actually put pressure on their promoters to make the fight they want, instead of acting like a pair of yes men, they might be more likely to get the fight. that is, if they want the fight, which neither of them do....
                You avoided answering the question to make sure all of know exactly what you are saying. No worries-we all knew anyway.

                You've got to be a special kind of ******ed or have a disgusting misplaced anger/agenda to blame Spence and Crawford knowing what Bob said.

                You have no idea what is said behind the scenes, but assume they are not because it fits your warped agenda.

                Did you ever think the reason Bob came out and said what he did was because Crawford's camp was pressuring him the way you suggest?

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                  You avoided answering the question to make sure all of know exactly what you are saying. No worries-we all knew anyway.

                  You've got to be a special kind of ******ed or have a disgusting misplaced anger/agenda to blame Spence and Crawford knowing what Bob said.

                  You have no idea what is said behind the scenes, but assume they are not because it fits your warped agenda.

                  Did you ever think the reason Bob came out and said what he did was because Crawford's camp was pressuring him the way you suggest?
                  why cant crawford come out in public and say 'i want to fight spence now, not benavidez' is that really that difficult? or are they that scared of upsetting an old mn

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by The Madison
                    why cant crawford come out in public and say 'i want to fight spence now, not benavidez' is that really that difficult? or are they that scared of upsetting an old mn
                    Probably because he is signed to fight Benaviadez in October and he, TR and ESPN want to maximize viewers for that fight rather than talk about someone he isn't fighting.

                    that is like asking why isn't GGG talking about Charlo.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                      Probably because he is signed to fight Benaviadez in October and he, TR and ESPN want to maximize viewers for that fight rather than talk about someone he isn't fighting.

                      that is like asking why isn't GGG talking about Charlo.
                      stop being difficult. obviously he could have said that before he signed.

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