Wilder & american boxing under pressure!

[Luilun]

Fake news you would be an asset to CNN

[kafkod]

You guys are trying to hard, hearn/aj fanatics have made fools of themselves hanging on and defending every eddie hearn lie and contradiction and even when its found out to be a lie you still try to save face and defend it (breazeall is signed, 50 mil pr stunt, wilder fury wont happen, and much more). Its time to stop while you are ahead and just chill, you have a good thing going in the uk and we are happy for you as boxing fans but its time for you all to stop it. Hopefully hearn can act like a civilized promoter the next time negotiations between him and team wilder present themselves. All he had to say was that he didnt want the fight next and wanted aj to take other fights before he fought wilder, its ok and makes sense but just say it. The way you all are going about this whole fiasco makes you look bad and gives the uk a stink. There is a reason most fighters and promoters are calling out hearn and aj.

he used to be on point and then once hearn and aj came to negotiations with wilder he lost balance and turned into a fan boy, not agreeing with wilder and sticking behind aj is fine but to ignore all they have done is a bit too much. still a decent channel otherwise.

Take a break from that shit, for crissake.

The video I posted is not about Hearn and AJ.

[Raggamuffin]

This is what you get from the JDB fans which is why we don’t need you in boxing lmao. You have never held a platform in boxing higher than Joshua and instead of taking risks, you hide behind them lol. You have never claimed Lennox except when it came to debates. You love Joshua so much that it blinds you to the reality of the sport.

That’s why Arum said what he said. You’re a disgrace to the fans of the true UK fighters who have fought in and risked it all in big fights...and become HOF fighters. You won’t backdoor Joshua into the HOF. He will have to fight someone that has the talent to beat him. I hope Headvetkin gets lucky and knocks the stoic stiff one out.

[Raggamuffin]

The guy doing the video is so ****en weak minded and such a Homer that it’s laughable what’s he’s saying. American boxing under pressure, lmfao. Hahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahaha lol. What’s laughable is Joshua not fighting Wilder, ****en coward...and Fury taking the challenge lmao. That’s truly laughable lol...

[kafkod]

American Boxing doesn't revolve around Wilder. There's the Mexican fanbase, then there's even a growing fan base for Lomachenko, a good GGG fan base and regional fan bases for Crawford, Spence both elite talents and often times elite talent ends up getting the type of exposure it deserves.

For people that really, really care about where a fighter is from and are pro-American then they will be upset if and when Wilder loses but they will move on or just focus on a new division. We've been here before.

Hatman is talking about American boxers, not American based boxers, and in particular, American HWs.

There is a strong argument that it was the failure of American boxing to move with the times and produce HW's big enough and good enough to compete with the new breed of European SHWs which killed boxing as a mainstream sport in the US.

A lot of people seem to be pinning their hopes on Wilder to bring back the glory days when "the most dangerous unarmed man on Earth" was, by default, an American HW boxer.

[kafkod]

This is what you get from the JDB fans which is why we don’t need you in boxing lmao. You have never held a platform in boxing higher than Joshua and instead of taking risks, you hide behind them lol. You have never claimed Lennox except when it came to debates. You love Joshua so much that it blinds you to the reality of the sport.

That’s why Arum said what he said. You’re a disgrace to the fans of the true UK fighters who have fought in and risked it all in big fights...and become HOF fighters. You won’t backdoor Joshua into the HOF. He will have to fight someone that has the talent to beat him. I hope Headvetkin gets lucky and knocks the stoic stiff one out.

The guy doing the video is so ****en weak minded and such a Homer that it’s laughable what’s he’s saying. American boxing under pressure, lmfao. Hahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahaha lol. What’s laughable is Joshua not fighting Wilder, ****en coward...and Fury taking the challenge lmao. That’s truly laughable lol...

I don't get it .. why are you idiots here crying about Hearn and AJ in a thread which has nothing to do with either of them?

[sicko]

Fan of HatmanStrikesBack channel but as far as this topic goes I completely disagree respectfully

American Boxing does revolves around Wilder in any way, like UK Boxing Revolves around AJ. If Wilder lose the only people that will be devastated are Hardcore Wilder Fans who have talked a lot of trash

No question Fury is more skilled than Wilder it is not even close, the only thing that keeps me from picking Fury is the fact that he is taking this fight so soon instead of getting more fights in first. However, if Fury is in good shape then it is no question he can box circles around Wilder. I typically go for THE BOXER>THE BRAWLER/POWER PUNCHER

[rickJen]

The heavyweight will never be resurrected the way it was decades ago, anyways, even if Wilder wins.
Why, because there's not a lot of names casuals are familiar with.
Who is he going to fight next to be worth another PPV fight?
He wants no part of Joshua.

[chrisJS]

Hatman is talking about American boxers, not American based boxers, and in particular, American HWs.

There is a strong argument that it was the failure of American boxing to move with the times and produce HW's big enough and good enough to compete with the new breed of European SHWs which killed boxing as a mainstream sport in the US.

A lot of people seem to be pinning their hopes on Wilder to bring back the glory days when "the most dangerous unarmed man on Earth" was, by default, an American HW boxer.

Obviously in general there's been a mainstream drop in the interest in Boxing and I'm sure it has something to do with the plight of the heavyweights. I've personally never seen the fascination with the Heavyweight division but the sport needs casual fans to truly thrive as a whole and casual fans have historically been more attracted to the big men. I think it's no secret that British boxing has been on the up the last 10 years but it's taken a popular, unified Heavyweight to take it to the next level in public interest it seems.

Maybe there's just less talented big guys entering the sport here these days? Maybe the coaching has gotten worse/outdated? Maybe it's just a dry patch? Maybe it's all of the above. I think the last American Heavyweight that I would consider good or say, very good was probably Rid**** Bowe. The last great one was Holyfield. Clinging onto Wilder seems desperate and for fans that really, really care about where a fighter comes from or has so much national pride I think that's a sad state of the current standards of American Heavyweights and one that hopefully changes. America has a long, great tradition of legendary Heavyweights it just seems a shame to try and manufacture one like Wilder who has awful footwork, poor defense, low ring IQ, awful technique and doesn't throw many left hooks. I don't get it.

There will be another great one though. Maybe in 10 years he'll emerge but the talent pool is so low it's going to be difficult to hone his skills in the gym, the amateur ranks etc; Law of averages says he'll come soon enough though.

IMO the last great Heavyweight was Lennox Lewis though some argue for the Klits. I'd say they were very good and better than Joshua and Fury for example but not great.

I've never understood or related to the so-called fans who root for the sport to fail though and can't accept other markets and regions/countries being involved. Globalization is good for the sport and thriving industry and markets are good for the sport. It produces more money to put back into the sport and deliver the matches we want. Too many "fans" these days are interested in the fortunes of 2-3 guys they love and 2-3 guys they hate. It's a problem with the boxing public these days. I'm not sure why so many fans are so triggered and insecure about the European talent and the British market and fans and I'm a fight going Los Angeles based boxing fan who regularly travels to Vegas, NYC to see fights and has been to U.K fights and shows in Puerto Rico and Mexico and other states and cities. There's excellent boxing and boxers everywhere and it's easily accessible.

[Raggamuffin]

I don't get it .. why are you idiots here crying about Hearn and AJ in a thread which has nothing to do with either of them?

I don't get, it I don't get it! ~ Big