Comments Thread For: Wilder: Once I Beat Fury, Fans Must Pressure Joshua To Fight Me

[Noelanthony]

He's the consensus #1 in the world. If you disagree with all of the world's leading experts, more power to you. Nobody is going to lose any sleep over your uneducated inexperienced amateur opinion.

Exactly dummy so think twice before you call him Champion of England and stop contradicting yourself. Be consistent with your words because if Joshua is universally no 1 he is definitely more than Champion of England. Your words not mine.I think someone uneducated would understand that. What exactly are you paid for if you can not be precise with the facts.so my advise to you is deliver the facts and stop getting involved in frivolous banter mimicking terms of phrases you may have heard and then doing a complete 360 and telling me what I already know. Shall I repost your previous post and show you just how contradictory you are?

[Dumpster Juice]

Exactly dummy so think twice before you call him Champion of England and stop contradicting yourself. Be consistent with your words because if Joshua is universally no 1 he is definitely more than Champion of England. I think someone uneducated would understand that. What exactly are you paid for if you can not be precise with the facts.so my advise to you is deliver the facts and stop getting involved in frivolous banter mimicking terms of phrases you may have heard and then doing a complete 360 and telling me what I already know. Shall I repost your previous post and show you just how contradictory you are?

Nah.. You cant be a p*ssy and be #1.

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I still don’t think it’s a duck as you say but I’ve come round to the idea that they tried to stiff Wilder with a bad deal.

But Wilder accepted the bad deal and they still refused to do the fight next. That's a duck. Doesn't mean the plan was to duck him forever. Clearly they felt Povetkin was a safer fight and it made zero business sense to do Wilder before Povetkin instead of after.

I must say though, you and a lot of people have said that the WBA issue was a lie. Upon what do you base that? I’m a cynic like the next person but if I make an assertion, I’ll at least substantiate it. We seem to have made the WBA thing gospel with no supporting evidence.

We know it's a lie for a few reasons. #1 - The timing was too coincidental. As soon as Finkel wants a date so he can send the contract back, hours later the WBA letter comes out. #2 - Even if the letter was legit and AJ had 24 hours to sign for Povetkin, a week later, Povetkin's side admitted the fight still wasn't signed.

Was AJ stripped? Nope. Thus again proving the letter was bogus.

Further, the WBA has no legal recourse to strip AJ for not signing to fight Povetkin until a purse bid is first held. That takes weeks, meaning there was plenty of time to still sign the Wilder fight first.

The WBA letter was clearly a smokescreen to help Hearn, just as the WBO is now saying Povetkin isn't mandatory, so that Whyte can become mandatory, even though the WBO had already repeatedly said for months and months that Povetkin was mandatory.

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Exactly dummy so think twice before you call him Champion of England and stop contradicting yourself.

Haven't contradicted myself at all. If AJ keeps fighting fights in England nobody outside of England cares about, while Wilder and Fury have two huge fights for the lineal title, AJ will be considered nothing more than the world champion of England. The Wilder/Fury winner will be considered the real world champion.

[Noelanthony]

Haven't contradicted myself at all. If AJ keeps fighting fights in England nobody outside of England cares about, while Wilder and Fury have two huge fights for the lineal title, AJ will be considered nothing more than the world champion of England. The Wilder/Fury winner will be considered the real world champion.

Will be considered the real world champion where exactly, to who? You are a stat man so what rankings would consider either fighter no 1 or do you mean they will be considered no1 amongst the uneducated posters such as myself and a few educated posters/ media. I say this simply based off your rankings .Is it not no2 in the world vs no 8 in the world who happens to be lineal champion?

On September the 22 The champion of England no1 takes on world no3 but let’s say no 5 so I don’t ruffle your feathers.

[Noelanthony]

Nah.. You cant be a p*ssy and be #1.

The World rankings says different.Im not denying we have looked apprehensive to a degree to commit but because I don’t buy all the Bulls#hit Winkel feeds the media I will not condemn Joshua.

You hear Wilder speak with conviction but his team are not on the same page. There is absolutely no reason to receive a contract and take over 3 weeks just to respond.

[P to the J]

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But Wilder accepted the bad deal and they still refused to do the fight next. That's a duck. Doesn't mean the plan was to duck him forever. Clearly they felt Povetkin was a safer fight and it made zero business sense to do Wilder before Povetkin instead of after.


We know it's a lie for a few reasons. #1 - The timing was too coincidental. As soon as Finkel wants a date so he can send the contract back, hours later the WBA letter comes out. #2 - Even if the letter was legit and AJ had 24 hours to sign for Povetkin, a week later, Povetkin's side admitted the fight still wasn't signed.

Was AJ stripped? Nope. Thus again proving the letter was bogus.

Further, the WBA has no legal recourse to strip AJ for not signing to fight Povetkin until a purse bid is first held. That takes weeks, meaning there was plenty of time to still sign the Wilder fight first.

The WBA letter was clearly a smokescreen to help Hearn, just as the WBO is now saying Povetkin isn't mandatory, so that Whyte can become mandatory, even though the WBO had already repeatedly said for months and months that Povetkin was mandatory.

But 1) Wilder’s team didn’t actually sign the bad deal. They took weeks to even come back with their points of contention within the contract. Not Wilder’s fault by any means but his management team appear to suffer from poor communication (IF you ask me).

2) so you’re at the very least deeply su****ious of the timing of the WBA’s announcement? That much I get. Is corruption rife in boxing? Yes and it’s within the realms of probability that a promoter could bribe a sanctioning body. But still it’s purely speculation until proven otherwise.
My primary point here being that I often see Wilder’s or his team’s words taken at face value and regarded as fact but Hearn’s/Aj’s words are often regarded on these pages as untrue. Why do we not apply
the same levels of scrutiny to Wilder and his team?

From my angle, both teams have tried (and failed) to position themselves as the dominant party and both appeared to have ****ed it. At least until one team pulled the Fury rabbit out of the hat.

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The World rankings says different.Im not denying we have looked apprehensive to a degree to commit but because I don’t buy all the Bulls#hit Winkel feeds the media I will not condemn Joshua.

You hear Wilder speak with conviction but his team are not on the same page. There is absolutely no reason to receive a contract and take over 3 weeks just to respond.

Wilder’s inconsistent with his statements too but he speaks whatever’s on his mind, so I agree with that. In fact he’s raw.

Wouldn’t trust any of the promoters on either side as far as I could throw them (although I could throw them pretty far....). Finkel changes his mind about what day of the week it is at least 3 times a day depending on who’s interviewing him.

Hearn appears to have the loyalty of most of his fighters but he’s so prolific with the ****ney wideboy doublespeak that if he’s not Harry Redknapp’s secret child then I’m John ****ing Kennedy.

[Noelanthony]

Wilder’s inconsistent with his statements too but he speaks whatever’s on his mind, so I agree with that. In fact he’s raw.

Wouldn’t trust any of the promoters on either side as far as I could throw them (although I could throw them pretty far....). Finkel changes his mind about what day of the week it is at least 3 times a day depending on who’s interviewing him.

Hearn appears to have the loyalty of most of his fighters but he’s so prolific with the ****ney wideboy doublespeak that if he’s not Harry Redknapp’s secret child then I’m John ****ing Kennedy.

Lololololol true speech

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Will be considered the real world champion where exactly, to who?

Where? Everywhere. To who? To everyone that follows the heavyweight lineage back to 1885.