Comments Thread For: Wilder: Joshua, Hearn Degraded Me - $15 Mill & No Percentage!

[SUBZER0ED]

60/40 was fair before this fight. If Deontay beats Fury, his value goes up and he's not taking 40%. That's ridiculous after a Fury win. He'll be way more valuable that 40%. It's 50/50 at that point.

Are you really going to give Wilder that much credit for beating Fury, considering what you know about his recent past and watching his two comeback fights? The only thing that Wilder can claim in beating Fury is that he beat a mentally & physically compromised lineal champion, who's been away for 2.5 years.

[Ake-Dawg]

Thats not by THAT logic bc that IS logic .... that is how the fight business is done ,by what you are generating .


If it wasnt then no one would fight eachother and wait for just big fights ( most do anyway ) !

Marcos Maidana's highest purse before Mayweather was on the order of 400k against Broner. By that logic that you support, Mayweather only need to offer him $1.2M (3x his highest). Instead, Maidana got $1.5M, all of the Argentinian tv money, and ppv upside. Reports are that he pocketed over $3M for that fight.

The facts say that business ISN'T done they way you guys want it to be done. Your value in a fight is not determined by your past purses alone.

[Laligalaliga]

Why do you have to hope so? Wilder, Fury, Wilder's manager and Fury's promoter have all publicly said the fight is official and they'll announce all the details in the coming week. You think they're lying?

I never said they are lieing but fury has the habit of pulling out from fight.

[_Maxi]

These dummies with the, "it's more than he ever made!"
Hearn puppets didn't realize that's not how you do business. Your worth is not based on how much you've made, it's how much you can generate for a specific event and these guys spent endless hours arguing just to be proven completely wrong.

But you were one of those dummies two years ago...

[SUBZER0ED]

Maybe if you could draw more than flies, you could command a larger percentage, bum squad.

[peplz]

You have a very poor understanding of business, specifically illustrated by the idea that Joshua would deserve a "vast majority" over Wilder after a Fury win. The same words you used to describe you vs Floyd Mayweather.... SMH...


Again, you guys fail to understand basic business principles (and before anyone tries to pull rank I've been running my own biz for over 10 years and have managed talent {on a small scale} in the past). Wilder does not get paid based on what Joshua can do without him. Hearn has somehow deluded his minions into repeating that so just stop it. It makes you sound ******. It's about the synergy that creates an event that is bigger than the sum of it's parts.

You also fail to see that Joshua has lost face. People don't even give a *** that he's about to fight Povetkin. Fact is, the UK's heart is with Fury and now that he's back, they're dumping Joshua who reeks of princess behavior. Joshua was only popular in a small country, and now that is taking a hit. Wilder has been gaining tremendous stream and after beating Fury, Wilder is a hot item and this 60/40 talk is over.

BTW, I'm not even a Wilder fan. I think he's a train wreck in the making and doesn't respect his craft. I'm just being honest here.

I never check my quoted posts unless I happen to see them in a revisited thread so don't write a big rebuttal as I'm unlikely to see it.

There is whole lot of wishful thinking in this post.

[peplz]

So you didn't think about how much the fight could make? To me this is the most important factor. If fighting Wilder adds 50% more revenue over the typical revenue of a Joshua fight, you can't just say, well Joshua deserves all of that increase because he's popular. That's why flat fees don't work for big fights.

Seems like you are/were hung up on previous purses as if that's what determines a fighters value in an individual fight. I also think you've underestimated fan's, particularly those in the UK, awareness of who Wilder is. A fighter doesn't have to be "popular" or "liked" to have value.

More wishful thinking with zero basis in reality.

[CJFRENCH]

Wilder and Fury think this fight is bigger so who is getting the guaranteed $50 million? Guarantees of $10 mil and $15 mil combined do not get close to the 50 mil. So basically the fight with Joshua is the big fight and Hearns offer was not far out as Wilder is only guaranteed £15 mil. So yes they need to sell the PPV etc to make more but
those financing this fight do not believe it is a bigger fight as the guarantees on what they get indicate.

[Ake-Dawg]

More wishful thinking with zero basis in reality.

What's your issue today? Did mommy not change your diaper so now you wanna come on here and say random stuff for attention. Speak when spoken to child.

[Laligalaliga]

Deontay Wilder won the WBC title January 2015.

Klitschko instead chose to fight Bryant Jennings, before getting beat by Tyson Fury.

It's well documented that finkel openly ducked WK stating that wilder is not ready for him.
Have you started watching boxing then?