Joshua's Legacy Forever Tainted

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  • Sid-Knee
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    #41
    Originally posted by koolkc107
    Fury isn't a KO artist.

    He boxes and that can be boring to those not well versed enough in the science to appreciate nuance.

    Joshua is supposed to be a KO artist. And his last two fights, he didn't deliver any fireworks to speak of.

    The truth is Wlad looked bad vs Jennings, two years before he fought AJ. Then he lost to Fury who could move and box.

    So, of course even a washed Wlad would look good and rejuvenated vs an AJ that stands still...but, it was the same washed Wlad. AJ's inexperience also helped Klitschko look good.
    Come with all the bull**** nonsense you want, you're still a hypocrite no matter which way you cut it.

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    • buddyr
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      #42
      Originally posted by Sid-Knee
      Joshua has a better resume than all 3. How did that happen if he doesn't fight the best? Hell, he has a better resume than Wilder and Ortiz combined. Let that sink in.
      he's beat Parker, who has never beat anyone. And a 41 year old Wlad, that Fury beat first. Exactly who has he beat? Ortiz(Wilder) is better than everyone on Joshua's resume. And I'm not a fan of either guy. They're all extremely average to me. But how can you give AJ credit for a 41 year old Wlad, but NOT give Fury credit for beating Wlad a year prior? I don't understand that one. Charles Martin was/is/will forever be garbage. Please don't mention Takam either. It just shows how bad the hw division is. Povetkin is nothing either. All of these guys resumes are ****ing horrible but Ortiz and Wlad(not coming off a loss and one foot in retirement) are better than anyone AJ fought.

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      • Sid-Knee
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        #43
        Originally posted by buddyr
        he's beat Parker, who has never beat anyone. And a 41 year old Wlad, that Fury beat first. Exactly who has he beat? Ortiz(Wilder) is better than everyone on Joshua's resume. And I'm not a fan of either guy. They're all extremely average to me. But how can you give AJ credit for a 41 year old Wlad, but NOT give Fury credit for beating Wlad a year prior? I don't understand that one. Charles Martin was/is/will forever be garbage. Please don't mention Takam either. It just shows how bad the hw division is. Povetkin is nothing either. All of these guys resumes are ****ing horrible but Ortiz and Wlad(not coming off a loss and one foot in retirement) are better than anyone AJ fought.
        You're deluded if you really believe that. So there's no point in continuing any further, it would be a waste of my time.

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        • KillaCamNZ
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          #44
          Originally posted by D4thincarnation
          Joshua will be know as a ducker, never to have faced his main rivals, sat back and took the easy fights while the others manned up and fought.

          Fury beat Klitschko first, Joshua was too scared to step up. Joshua even made excuses not to fight Fury back then

          Now the WBC champ, Wilder will face off against the Heavyweight lineal champ.


          If Fury wins, he will be forever ranked above Joshua, then man to stepped up and be the champions, while Joshua hid behind Eddie Hearn.

          Wilder has already proved that he is willing to step up for the big fights only for Joshua to duck him, and beating Fury will cement his position above Joshua.

          These could have been scalps of undefeated champs on Joshua's record, but with them fighter each other one will be definitely gone, and with time running out in their primes, Joshua's best win is still against a 41 year old Wlad, who was coming of a loss to Fury.


          Ducking hurts your legacy, and not taking the big fights when then the present themselves, for not chasing them, when they are so few around, shows the world that you are not a champ, just a fraud.


          Fury and Wilder, criticize their style all you want, but they will step up and back up their words rather than hide behind their promoter, stay at home and take the safe fights.
          Wilder: 40-0, who's best win is an old as dirt Ortiz.

          Don't ever *****ing talk about Wilder being an example of stepping up.

          His career has been a lesson in underachievement and safe choices.

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          • D4thincarnation
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            #45
            Originally posted by KillaCamNZ
            Wilder: 40-0, who's best win is an old as dirt Ortiz.

            Don't ever *****ing talk about Wilder being an example of stepping up.

            His career has been a lesson in underachievement and safe choices.

            Yet Joshua makes excuses for not fighting Wilder

            Why is that?

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            • D4thincarnation
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              #46
              Originally posted by Sid-Knee
              Wilder wanted 50/50 split before Joshua fought Parker. That right there tells you that Wilder won't fight Joshua unless he gets a retirement cheque to do so. Wilder is now back to asking for half.

              It's like me saying i'll fight you but you have to give me your house. If you refuse, you're a coward. Doesn't make sense does it? Seriously, sort yourself out, man.

              Wilder offered up a $50 million for Joshua. Eddie turned it down.

              If Wilder vs Fury gets a million PPV then Wilder can demand more money as he will be have generated more cash.

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              • D4thincarnation
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                #47
                Originally posted by Sid-Knee
                Then Wilder is fighting a fat shot Fury who is tainted considering he got a 2 year back dated ban. So what exactly is Wilder "Stepping up" to?
                He is stepping up to the lineal heavyweight champ.

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                • D4thincarnation
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Sid-Knee
                  Joshua takes the safe fights? He's the one who is willing to fight the best out there. He's cleaning out the division while Wilder is either fighting bums or taking on a Fury that looks like ****. Joshua has standards which is why he wanted Fury to get back to his best before they fight. But if Fury insisted, Joshua would have no problem getting it on with this version and wiping him out.

                  Joshua was too scared to fight Wlad when he was champ? Are you for ****ing real? Why would a fighter with so few fights and little to no experience fight the champ at that point? It doesn't make any sense. You're talking garbage here, plain and simple.

                  Wilder has proven he is willing to step up for the big fights? Hahahahahahahahahaha. He's fought one old man who looked liked **** in 40 fights. That's evidence that proves you wrong in every way imaginable. Stop talking nonsense.

                  Fighting them all in his backyard, with Eddie getting the judges and ref on side.

                  Did Lennox Lewis take this approached or did he seek out the best and demand they face him?

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                  • strykr619
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by D4thincarnation
                    Joshua will be know as a ducker, never to have faced his main rivals, sat back and took the easy fights while the others manned up and fought.

                    Fury beat Klitschko first, Joshua was too scared to step up. Joshua even made excuses not to fight Fury back then

                    Now the WBC champ, Wilder will face off against the Heavyweight lineal champ.


                    If Fury wins, he will be forever ranked above Joshua, then man to stepped up and be the champions, while Joshua hid behind Eddie Hearn.

                    Wilder has already proved that he is willing to step up for the big fights only for Joshua to duck him, and beating Fury will cement his position above Joshua.

                    These could have been scalps of undefeated champs on Joshua's record, but with them fighter each other one will be definitely gone, and with time running out in their primes, Joshua's best win is still against a 41 year old Wlad, who was coming of a loss to Fury.


                    Ducking hurts your legacy, and not taking the big fights when then the present themselves, for not chasing them, when they are so few around, shows the world that you are not a champ, just a fraud.


                    Fury and Wilder, criticize their style all you want, but they will step up and back up their words rather than hide behind their promoter, stay at home and take the safe fights.
                    AJ is only 28.... your acting like he is 39 and over the hill, give the man some time, or are you also going to concede that wilder ducked vitali and hence his legacy is forever questioned since he waited for Vitali to go into poltics before going for hid belt?

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                    • chrisJS
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by strykr619
                      AJ is only 28.... your acting like he is 39 and over the hill, give the man some time, or are you also going to concede that wilder ducked vitali and hence his legacy is forever questioned since he waited for Vitali to go into poltics before going for hid belt?
                      He then also ducked a unification fight with Wladimir per Shelly Finkel's words.

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