Comments Thread For: Tyson Fury: Let's Face It, Wilder Hasn't Really Fought Anybody

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  • landotter
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    #71
    Originally posted by lakerstekkenn
    Wilder might be the Heavy Weight champion, that people will trash and say he never fought anybody and end up knocking everyone out, but people will say they actually weren't any good and Furry wasn't ready.

    But Wilder will still probably end up knocking everyone out including Joshua and Furry, but people still won't give him credit until he retire"s.
    If Wilder KO's Joshua after also showing the chin he did to come from behind and beat Ortiz, he will get plenty of love. There is a group on this site that just hate him to hate him, and who cares what they think?

    If Wilder handles Joshua, he will get the respect he will have earned.

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    • Cutthroat
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      #72
      Originally posted by Deus

      Not sure whether you're just ill informed or flat out lying.

      Joshua's first amateur fight was 2009, his last was the Olympics in 2012. Basic maths says that isn't 5 years.

      Wilder finished with an amateur record of 30-5, Joshua finished with an amateur record of 40-3... so there's a grand total of 8 bouts difference between their experience.
      AJ started boxing in 2007, technically he didn't have his first fight until 2009 but that 2 year foundation was already set.

      Wilder started in Oct. 2005, by Nov. 2008 he had his first pro bout.

      Both men come from very different backgrounds and fought in entirely different weight divisions, Wilder 91kg, AJ 91kg+. Wilder would've been a cruiser in pro boxing.

      Wilder already had a kid and was working 2 jobs during his amateur career.

      AJ was living with him mom in the suburbs.

      One guy had to work for it all, the other was handed everything.
      AJ was even offered 50k to turn pro in 2010 but turned it down, it took Wilder years to make that sort of money as a pro.

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      • LacedUp
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        #73
        Originally posted by Jab jab boom
        aside from povtekin, his performances vs Jennings, wach, haye, chambers were all underwhelming. Perhaps you don't understand the concept of technical boxing but klitchko is primarily a jab right hand puncher and he rarely let's his right hand fly. When he does, it's after 39 consecutive jabs. He primarily uses his size advantage as his main defense by sticking out his left hand and backing away. Ortiz can counter punch, can roll with punches, can fight on the inside. These are all things klitchko does not excel at. Especially the older version of klitchko that fought fury and Joshua which was the version I compared Ortiz to.
        People called Wlad vs Wach the best Wlad they'd seen in years He absolutely smashed Wach and threw more punches against him than against anyone else. That was Wlad on top!

        Smashed Pulev to bits, KOd Chambers flat on his face.

        Yes he had his stinkers. But he undeniably fought at an infinitely higher level than Ortiz has or will. And he was a better amateur, and was a better pro.

        Ortiz is good, but he's nothing special.

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          #74
          Originally posted by Jab jab boom
          it's my opinion f**k boy. If you prefer watching a klitchko that threw 3 punches a round vs fury and an inactive 40 plus yr old version of klitchko coming off a layoff and loss, then that's your choice too.
          Your opinion is that you love Wilder and therefore wish to big up Ortiz.

          100% you haven't seen any other fight than the Wilder fight live.

          Don't even try to deny it, I smell your fanboy bs from 50 miles away.

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          • abracada
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            #75
            Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
            It didn't take long Tuesday for the attention to turn toward Deontay Wilder. A press conference in Belfast, Northern Ireland, was held to promote Tyson Fury's fight against Francesco Pianeta. The Italian veteran is a huge underdog, though, a big man considered little more than a tune-up for Fury before he challenges Wilder for the WBC heavyweight title in November.
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            AJ, wave goodbye to the Wilder payday, Fury going to outfox and expose wilder.

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            • jas
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              #76
              he just fought luis ortiz,

              but fury is delusional, lives in his own reality in his head

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                #77
                Originally posted by abracada
                AJ, wave goodbye to the Wilder payday, Fury going to outfox and expose wilder.
                Wouldnt that be Wilder waving good bye to the Joshua payday ?


                Dont you guys realise yet it is Joshua GETTING the actual paydays .

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                • abracada
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by juggernaut666
                  Wouldnt that be Wilder waving good bye to the Joshua payday ?


                  Dont you guys realise yet it is Joshua GETTING the actual paydays .
                  If Wilder loses they both aren’t getting a huge payday...

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                  • Boksfan
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by abracada
                    If Wilder loses they both aren’t getting a huge payday...
                    You deluded?

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                    • 5000boxing
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Tatabanya
                      To be honest, I still have to believe that Wilder vs Fury will REALLY happen. With Fury involved, there might be some drug-related pull-out at some point.
                      I hope not.. but if so, next up could be whyte.

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