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  • #61
    Originally posted by Boxing Goat View Post
    So, you agree with that panel making the decision after the fact when there's no way to even determine what was in the IV or what it was even really being used for, even though it could assist in Floyd having an unfair advantage over his opponent?
    Paramedics were called in front of the USADA doping control officer. Mayweather's illness was witnessed by the USADA DCO before paramedics were called. Mayweather was given vitamin C and salt water, an amount the size of a small water bottle. All witnessed by USADA. Mayweather gave a sample immediately before the IV and immediately after the IV.

    All of the facts are then analyzed by a panel of doctors who are not told who the athlete is.

    This goes on all the time and there's nothing controversial about it. How else would an athlete get treatment when there's an unexpected illness if there wasn't a protocol to review whether the treatment was legitimate or not?

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    • #62
      Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
      Paramedics were called in front of the USADA doping control officer. Mayweather's illness was witnessed by the USADA DCO before paramedics were called. Mayweather was given vitamin C and salt water, an amount the size of a small water bottle. All witnessed by USADA. Mayweather gave a sample immediately before the IV and immediately after the IV.

      All of the facts are then analyzed by a panel of doctors who are not told who the athlete is.

      This goes on all the time and there's nothing controversial about it. How else would an athlete get treatment when there's an unexpected illness if there wasn't a protocol to review whether the treatment was legitimate or not?
      Ok, so where are those facts documented? I've never heard that from any source. So provide the source.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Boxing Goat View Post
        If the rules allow IV's and approve them after fights, it's news to me.
        Then you need to pay better attention. That is one of USADA's main jobs. To determine after the fact if a treatment was for legitimate medical reasons or not. If an illness is unexpected and the day before the fight, of course it would have to be approved or disapproved after the fight. The vitamin C and salt water was declared to USADA in advance and witnessed by USADA. The proper paperwork was filled out and filed within the allowable time frame. There was nothing out of the ordinary involved.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Boxing Goat View Post
          Ok, so where are those facts documented? I've never heard that from any source. So provide the source.
          https://www.usada.org/wp-content/upl...Tom-Hauser.pdf

          Mr. Mayweather was notified by the Doping Control Officer (DCO) at his home around 1:45 pm, prior to Mr. Mayweather relocating to MGM Grand Garden Arena for the weigh-in. From the time of notification, Mr. Mayweather was continuously monitored by the USADA DCO until the sample collection was completed at approximately 8:15 pm.


          The IV was administered after the athlete
          had already been notified by the USADA DCO and in the presence of the USADA DCO. In addition, Mr. Mayweather declared the infusion in advance to the USADA DCO, who was made aware of the need for the IV due to Mr. Mayweather’s physical condition and who continued to monitor Mr. Mayweather throughout the administration of the IV by
          the paramedic and thereafter until a full sample was collected from Mr. Mayweather. Mr. Mayweather was never outside the physical presence of the USADA DCO from long before the IV was administered until well after administration when the urine sample collection process was complete.



          Mr. Mayweather declared the infusion in advance to a USADA doping control officer who was at his home for collection of a sample. Mr. Mayweather provided partial urine samples to USADA both prior to and following the infusion. The urine provided by Mr. Mayweather on May 1, 2015, was subsequently tested and has been reported by the World Anti-Doping Agency accredited laboratory as negative.


          When an athlete has an approved TUE, as in the case of Mr. Mayweather, who received a retroactive TUE for his use of an IV containing saline and vitamins, it is not a violation of the WADA rules to use the substance or method. Retroactive TUEs are a standard part of the WADA International Standard for The****utic Use Exemptions (ISTUE).


          as the NSAC advised Mr. Hauser, IVs are not prohibited in the NSAC rules. As such, there was no need for Mr. Mayweather to apply to NSAC for a TUE for the use of IVs. The TUE that was granted to by USADA to Mr. Mayweather was reported in accordance with the reporting obligations contained in the Testing Agreement

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Boxing Goat View Post
            If the rules allow IV's and approve them after fights, it's news to me.
            Ok.

            They where allowed.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Ric Flair Drip View Post
              ?????????????????????????
              The question is asked which notable PED users are missing, you’ve one about to fight the WBC champ and his cousin is about to fight in an IBF elimination against Pulev.

              Briggs is currently listing his flight details to Belfast to confront the last lineal champ and you’ve got Dillon Whyte who also is angling to fight the WBC title holder as well as putting himself forward to face the unified champion AJ.

              All confirmed dopers and cheats, I’d also forgotten Ortiz and Povetkin. That’s just one weight category to begin with.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
                https://www.usada.org/wp-content/upl...Tom-Hauser.pdf

                Mr. Mayweather was notified by the Doping Control Officer (DCO) at his home around 1:45 pm, prior to Mr. Mayweather relocating to MGM Grand Garden Arena for the weigh-in. From the time of notification, Mr. Mayweather was continuously monitored by the USADA DCO until the sample collection was completed at approximately 8:15 pm.


                The IV was administered after the athlete
                had already been notified by the USADA DCO and in the presence of the USADA DCO. In addition, Mr. Mayweather declared the infusion in advance to the USADA DCO, who was made aware of the need for the IV due to Mr. Mayweather’s physical condition and who continued to monitor Mr. Mayweather throughout the administration of the IV by
                the paramedic and thereafter until a full sample was collected from Mr. Mayweather. Mr. Mayweather was never outside the physical presence of the USADA DCO from long before the IV was administered until well after administration when the urine sample collection process was complete.



                Mr. Mayweather declared the infusion in advance to a USADA doping control officer who was at his home for collection of a sample. Mr. Mayweather provided partial urine samples to USADA both prior to and following the infusion. The urine provided by Mr. Mayweather on May 1, 2015, was subsequently tested and has been reported by the World Anti-Doping Agency accredited laboratory as negative.


                When an athlete has an approved TUE, as in the case of Mr. Mayweather, who received a retroactive TUE for his use of an IV containing saline and vitamins, it is not a violation of the WADA rules to use the substance or method. Retroactive TUEs are a standard part of the WADA International Standard for The****utic Use Exemptions (ISTUE).


                as the NSAC advised Mr. Hauser, IVs are not prohibited in the NSAC rules. As such, there was no need for Mr. Mayweather to apply to NSAC for a TUE for the use of IVs. The TUE that was granted to by USADA to Mr. Mayweather was reported in accordance with the reporting obligations contained in the Testing Agreement
                Very interesting read. Thanks a lot! I had not seen such a farce before this.

                All that is, is USADA covering their a55es and covering for cheating a55 Floyd.

                I have never been more certain than I am now that Floyd was blood doping and had intended to all along. There's not telling how long he has been doing it actually. With asking for IV exemptions way in advance even before knowing that you would need one is a 100% dead giveaway. You just more than sealed my opinion.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
                  Ok.

                  They where allowed.
                  Where do the rules say IV's are allowed without monitoring of what they even are and can be retroactively approved when there's no chance to even know what they consisted of?

                  If that's the case, I know how fighters are getting around doing PED's now. It would be simple as sh@t!

                  Did you rear the like the other guy provided? And if so, was that anything more than USADA covering their a55es and making excuses?

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
                    Then you need to pay better attention. That is one of USADA's main jobs. To determine after the fact if a treatment was for legitimate medical reasons or not. If an illness is unexpected and the day before the fight, of course it would have to be approved or disapproved after the fight. The vitamin C and salt water was declared to USADA in advance and witnessed by USADA. The proper paperwork was filled out and filed within the allowable time frame. There was nothing out of the ordinary involved.
                    So the NSAC knew what was in the HUGE IV?

                    Maybe you should pay better attention.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Boxing Goat View Post
                      Very interesting read. Thanks a lot! I had not seen such a farce before this.

                      All that is, is USADA covering their a55es and covering for cheating a55 Floyd.

                      I have never been more certain than I am now that Floyd was blood doping and had intended to all along. There's not telling how long he has been doing it actually. With asking for IV exemptions way in advance even before knowing that you would need one is a 100% dead giveaway. You just more than sealed my opinion.

                      You get the proof and then its a big conspiracy and you still paint your own twisted version.

                      Typical hater that's not interested in what ever happens because they will always make up their own story anyway.

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