Comments Thread For: Hearn in Talks With Manny Pacquiao, Wants Him For DAZN

[RoyJonesJrp4pno1]

Pac/Broner is the fight to make..... been saying that for awhile now

highly bankable, and highly winnable

Highly winnable for Manny. He kicks Broners ass with ease.

[Lemonhead_Jeff]

Noone stated he did.. but if you're honestly stating they'd make the money they have done since being with hearn of they hadnt joined matchroom... Then frankly you don't know anything about British boxing.

I'd love to know exactly how dillian Whyte and Kell brook were proven talents before they joined hearn though.. and Anthony crolla.

Crollas first fight for Hearn was coming off a loss for the bbbofc .. then he lost again.. if you think Warren or Hatton would have steered up up to a world title from that in 2012 then you're dead wrong.

None of the guys I've mentioned .. especially Kell brook would be anywhere near as rich and well known today if they didn't go to matchroom.. facts.

You are probably right.
I don't understand British Boxing. Whenever I try
talking to a Brit about boxing, all they talk about is
bank balances. I'm a fight fan so I can't quite relate.
When all is said and done, you can rate fighters
by how much money they've earned, if that's what
interests you. I'll rate them on their in-ring exploits.
We can agree to disagree on Hearn.
When Hearn signed Brook in 2011, Brook was
already the British & WBO Intercontinental Champ,
and he was well on his way to stardom. I don't
attribute Brook's subsequent success to Hearn,
and I think it was reckless of Hearn to allow Brook
to get his skull cracked twice in a row by the most
dangerous fighters Brook could have possibly faced.
Wins over Bizier, Gavin, and Dan could not prepare
Brook for the likes of Golovkin and Spence.
Anthony Crolla is just a blind squirrel who eventually
found a nut, because sometimes it's easier to get
world title shots when you're perceived as a bum
who fights just well enough to lose competitively.
Dillian Whyte is a brash-talking, aggressive, slugger
who's style appeals to drunken casual fans that
love to sing 'Sweet Caroline'. Any promoter could
sell that, but Hearn is just positioning Whyte for
rematch with Joshua. Probably in Joshua's next
fight or two, instead of negotiating with opponents
that the world demands. As long as British fans will
pack a stadium, to hell with fighting the best.
I don't think Hearn is special, or as clever as you
give him credit for. Hearn has had Danny Jacobs
spinning his wheels, losing momentum in fights
against nondescript opponents. Jacobs was on a
roll before signing with Hearn, but he has not faced
a significant opponent since. Just high-profile HBO
mismatches. Those are the type of fights that
caused HBO's rift with Al Haymon, now they're
buying the same bollox mismatches from Hearn
because they've alienated themselves from PBC
and Top Rank. Hearn is just another parasite.

[IMDAZED]

Not really, since McGregor was a PPV - and the first dualcast on both UFC streams and boxing plays.

It's one thing to have a one-off fight that's on cable. It's another thing to basically just be a cable fighter now.

Exactly, not really. And it would’ve been PPV whether Mayweather-Berto was on CBS or not. Arum had a new deal, of course his biggest star was going to be featured.

[yammy25]

You are probably right.
I don't understand British Boxing. Whenever I try
talking to a Brit about boxing, all they talk about is
bank balances. I'm a fight fan so I can't quite relate.
When all is said and done, you can rate fighters
by how much money they've earned, if that's what
interests you. I'll rate them on their in-ring exploits.
We can agree to disagree on Hearn.
When Hearn signed Brook in 2011, Brook was
already the British & WBO Intercontinental Champ,
and he was well on his way to stardom. I don't
attribute Brook's subsequent success to Hearn,
and I think it was reckless of Hearn to allow Brook
to get his skull cracked twice in a row by the most
dangerous fighters Brook could have possibly faced.
Wins over Bizier, Gavin, and Dan could not prepare
Brook for the likes of Golovkin and Spence.
Anthony Crolla is just a blind squirrel who eventually
found a nut, because sometimes it's easier to get
world title shots when you're perceived as a bum
who fights just well enough to lose competitively.
Dillian Whyte is a brash-talking, aggressive, slugger
who's style appeals to drunken casual fans that
love to sing 'Sweet Caroline'. Any promoter could
sell that, but Hearn is just positioning Whyte for
rematch with Joshua. Probably in Joshua's next
fight or two, instead of negotiating with opponents
that the world demands. As long as British fans will
pack a stadium, to hell with fighting the best.
I don't think Hearn is special, or as clever as you
give him credit for. Hearn has had Danny Jacobs
spinning his wheels, losing momentum in fights
against nondescript opponents. Jacobs was on a
roll before signing with Hearn, but he has not faced
a significant opponent since. Just high-profile HBO
mismatches. Those are the type of fights that
caused HBO's rift with Al Haymon, now they're
buying the same bollox mismatches from Hearn
because they've alienated themselves from PBC
and Top Rank. Hearn is just another parasite.

Brook was on his way to stardom? This was when he Frank warren had a share of sky dates and plonked every piece of **** card he had on box office.
Nobody watched them...nobody cared. Noone in the UK was watching boxing in 2011. So no... Brook wasn't "on his way to stardom " because the simple fact is the money from the UK fan base wasn't being injected into the sport.

As for his defences and resume. He beat porter for the belt .. porter isn't pillow fisted. He's no golovkin but what you're suggesting is brook should never have faced his mandatory In Spence because he wasn't prepared for his power? What should he have done then? Moved up to 154 to avoid the weight drain..get called a ducker and fight harder punchers? Don't get your logic.

You can't turn around and state..

"that fighter won his title from an accomplished opponent and then defended his belt numerous times against his mandatories..but his promoter was dead wrong feeding him to his last mandatory opponent, that hearns a right bastard"

Alot of people had brook leading on the cards in the Spence fight by the way...he got an injury..and was unlucky. Stop begrudging him his honours because you hang on Errol's nuts.

Those drunken fans swinging sweet Caroline make up the majority of boxing fans world wide.. the casual .
Not everyone's a "hardcore" and Hearn makes the most money for his fighters because he makes his fighters seem appealing to the casual fan..I don't see what's so hard to get about this. You're degrading the fighters for their accomplishments but completely forgetting that it's literally Hearn selling their personas to a casual fan base that is interested by that ..which means this topic of Hearn being a good promoter is bolstered because the others don't do it.

When was the last time arum..or De la Hoya or Warren managed to make you like a sub par fighter based not on their skills but their backstory? Never.

As for Jacobs.. his "mismatches" were an eliminator and final eliminator that steered him into mandatory contention with the IBF and WBO. His next fight is for a title and is against a fighter people stated GGG ****ed to fight vanes.
Btw.. more people watched his last fight than his fight against quillin on showtime under AL "does no wrong" Haymon..just sayin

Hearns a parasite.. but takes less than any other promoter and makes more for his fighters than any other promoter ..

[Lemonhead_Jeff]

Brook was on his way to stardom? This was when he Frank warren had a share of sky dates and plonked every piece of **** card he had on box office.
Nobody watched them...nobody cared. Noone in the UK was watching boxing in 2011. So no... Brook wasn't "on his way to stardom " because the simple fact is the money from the UK fan base wasn't being injected into the sport.

As for his defences and resume. He beat porter for the belt .. porter isn't pillow fisted. He's no golovkin but what you're suggesting is brook should never have faced his mandatory In Spence because he wasn't prepared for his power? What should he have done then? Moved up to 154 to avoid the weight drain..get called a ducker and fight harder punchers? Don't get your logic.

You can't turn around and state..

"that fighter won his title from an accomplished opponent and then defended his belt numerous times against his mandatories..but his promoter was dead wrong feeding him to his last mandatory opponent, that hearns a right bastard"

Alot of people had brook leading on the cards in the Spence fight by the way...he got an injury..and was unlucky. Stop begrudging him his honours because you hang on Errol's nuts.

Those drunken fans swinging sweet Caroline make up the majority of boxing fans world wide.. the casual .
Not everyone's a "hardcore" and Hearn makes the most money for his fighters because he makes his fighters seem appealing to the casual fan..I don't see what's so hard to get about this. You're degrading the fighters for their accomplishments but completely forgetting that it's literally Hearn selling their personas to a casual fan base that is interested by that ..which means this topic of Hearn being a good promoter is bolstered because the others don't do it.

When was the last time arum..or De la Hoya or Warren managed to make you like a sub par fighter based not on their skills but their backstory? Never.

As for Jacobs.. his "mismatches" were an eliminator and final eliminator that steered him into mandatory contention with the IBF and WBO. His next fight is for a title and is against a fighter people stated GGG ****ed to fight vanes.
Btw.. more people watched his last fight than his fight against quillin on showtime under AL "does no wrong" Haymon..just sayin

Hearns a parasite.. but takes less than any other promoter and makes more for his fighters than any other promoter ..

You seem to be quoting other people in there
and attributing their comments to me when you said
"You can't turn around and state..."
Those are not my words in your following quotations.
You kinda lost me at that point. But cheers!
Get your thoughts collected and get back to me.

[yammy25]

You seem to be quoting other people in there
and attributing their comments to me when you said
"You can't turn around and state..."
Those are not my words in your following quotations.
You kinda lost me at that point. But cheers!
Get your thoughts collected and get back to me.

Grow some nuts. Stop nitpicking at tiny things because you know you've lost the debate.. and admit that im right.

Nobody else on this forum would disagree that Hearn made his fighters..and the ones I listed alot more money than they would ever had made had they not joined matchroom. You seem to be the only person under the illusion that brook was on his way to stardom ( literally your quote) and would have made the money he has if he stayed with Warren.

Deluded

[Lemonhead_Jeff]

Grow some nuts. Stop nitpicking at tiny things because you know you've lost the debate.. and admit that im right.

Nobody else on this forum would disagree that Hearn made his fighters..and the ones I listed alot more money than they would ever had made had they not joined matchroom. You seem to be the only person under the illusion that brook was on his way to stardom ( literally your quote) and would have made the money he has if he stayed with Warren.

Deluded

You seemed to totally ignore what I said about
Hearn's mishandling of Danny Jacobs.
Anybody can sell a polished turd to British boxing fans.
If you want to put Hearn on a cross and pray to him
before you go to bed at night, that's your business.
He has not turned water into wine like you've suggested.
Fact.

[yammy25]

You seemed to totally ignore what I said about
Hearn's mishandling of Danny Jacobs.
Anybody can sell a polished turd to British boxing fans.
If you want to put Hearn on a cross and pray to him
before you go to bed at night, that's your business.
He has not turned water into wine like you've suggested.
Fact.

How has Hearn mishandled Jacobs? By putting him on a network with more subscribers and and having his fights viewed by more people?

More people watched his fights under Hearn on HBO than his fights on showtime .. the numbers are there to prove it lol. Jacobs has admitted he earns more under Hearn than he did on showtime under Haymon.

He is no longer advised by Al Haymon ... He left him. You tellin me a smart guy like Daniel Jacobs made that decision because Hearn sold him a non-existent pipedream that turned out to exist?

As for his exposure? What... 8000 tickets against a c grade fighter the week after Broner in the same city? With what was at the time a UK only based promoter? Kl.

I praise anyone in boxing who deserves it.. I chastise those who deserve it to and sometimes those people mingle ..but I give Hearn props for getting his guys more money than they would have ever got without him.

I'm not like you where I slate people based purely on them being from the UK...like I've seen you do in other threads. Maybe you're the one who needs to collect his thoughts.

[IMDAZED]

How has Hearn mishandled Jacobs? By putting him on a network with more subscribers and and having his fights viewed by more people?

More people watched his fights under Hearn on HBO than his fights on showtime .. the numbers are there to prove it lol. Jacobs has admitted he earns more under Hearn than he did on showtime under Haymon.

He is no longer advised by Al Haymon ... He left him. You tellin me a smart guy like Daniel Jacobs made that decision because Hearn sold him a non-existent pipedream that turned out to exist?

As for his exposure? What... 8000 tickets against a c grade fighter the week after Broner in the same city? With what was at the time a UK only based promoter? Kl.

I praise anyone in boxing who deserves it.. I chastise those who deserve it to and sometimes those people mingle ..but I give Hearn props for getting his guys more money than they would have ever got without him.

I'm not like you where I slate people based purely on them being from the UK...like I've seen you do in other threads. Maybe you're the one who needs to collect his thoughts.

He’s still advised by Haymon

[yammy25]

He’s still advised by Haymon

Hearn clarified back in June that Jacobs is no longer advised by Al Haymon in a video for fight hype