Comments Thread For: Hearn in Talks With Manny Pacquiao, Wants Him For DAZN

[GelfSara]

Hearn might be slimy..and Americans might not like a rich kid from Essex.. but he's got alot of his fighters more money than they could ever have dreamt of and enabled them live lives far beyond what they thought possible

As an American I have the utmost respect for Hearn; he's one of the straightest shooters in the game of boxing, and--with the exception of claiming Jacobs beat Golovkin--seems an honest man.

[MulaKO]

He’s in the same role he was in before. But yes, Hearn is Jacobs’ promoter, something Haymon never was.

And once more , you are right

[Manlikefemi]

They were on sky pre-hearn when Warren was doing shoes on there and they were with him..

Hearn got his chance because of the great job matchroom had done with the darts with him as a PDF board member / chairman.

Hearn date shared at the beginning..then got outright exclusivity..because his product was better. People jumped over because he offered them more. My point..is that those fighters got more from Hearn than they ever would have without him

Yes but from 2009 (After Ricky Hatton got KTFO by Pacquiao) it was dead until 2013 (When Joshua came on the scene, Froch-Groves, Sky Box Office Relaunching)

In between that period you had Haye, who single Handedly shut down Sky Box Office after Harrison and Klitschko with the helping of Khan (Prescott) etc

Sky put fights like Froch-Bute back on Sky Sports not PPV. They invested more money after Joshua came on the scene after his gold medal in 2012.

Hearn has done well with the resources and making a briliant decision in putting Froch-Groves 2 at Wembley which proved to be a catalyst.

But to be honest it's Joshua that has taken Matchroom to another level. Froch-Groves 1 and 2, PPV Numbers were average. Joshua fights took him to another level and gave Hearn real recognition and publicity. Where it's almost like a Eddie Hearn and Joshua event you're going to and watching

[Lemonhead_Jeff]

How has Hearn mishandled Jacobs? By putting him on a network with more subscribers and and having his fights viewed by more people?

More people watched his fights under Hearn on HBO than his fights on showtime .. the numbers are there to prove it lol. Jacobs has admitted he earns more under Hearn than he did on showtime under Haymon.

He is no longer advised by Al Haymon ... He left him. You tellin me a smart guy like Daniel Jacobs made that decision because Hearn sold him a non-existent pipedream that turned out to exist?

As for his exposure? What... 8000 tickets against a c grade fighter the week after Broner in the same city? With what was at the time a UK only based promoter? Kl.

I praise anyone in boxing who deserves it.. I chastise those who deserve it to and sometimes those people mingle ..but I give Hearn props for getting his guys more money than they would have ever got without him.

I'm not like you where I slate people based purely on them being from the UK...like I've seen you do in other threads. Maybe you're the one who needs to collect his thoughts.

You only seem concerned with trivial statistics about
a fighters earnings and television ratings. You don't
seem to comprehend that actions speak the loudest.
There is a reason that Boxrec does not rate fighters
based on their bank, or even bother recording such
information. Because it means nothing when you are
evaluating a fighter's actual boxing credentials.
If Danny Jacobs two most recent fights were the
most viewed fights in his career, it is because HBO
has a larger subscriber base and because of the
success Jacobs had garnered in the past. He was
like a snowball, building momentum KO victories and
fights against known commodities like Quillin, Mora,
and Golovkin. Under Hearn's watch, Jacobs' last two
opponents have been unknown, over matched, and
uninteresting unanimous decision losers. His next
opponent, Sergiy Derevyanchenko, will be more of
the same. Momentum finished. Hearn was involved
with Jacobs when he signed with HBO, but they
were obviously interested in Jacobs due to his
previous performances, not because of any
sales-pitch Hearn may have given them.
After broadcasting the last two 'stinkers', I'm sure
HBO must be second guessing Jacobs' value.
Hearn might be helping a few fighters get paid,
but he's not helping all of their competitive legacies.

The only people you may have seen me "slate"
are that turd who uses a photo of Amir Khan as
Sherlock Holmes, and SidKnee, who is another
gnat on a dog's balls. I usually prefer to respectfully
agree to disagree, but some of you Brits insist on
poking a mean, yet well-behaved, dog with a sharp
stick.

We can agree to disagree about Hearn, but we will
never see eye-to-eye since I keep talking about
actions, while you keep talking about transactions.
I keep talking about fistic sports, but all you seem
to care about are fiscal reports. I'm here to discuss
pugilism, not capitalism. I don't need a calculator
to collect my thoughts. I don't need an abacus
to let it fly off the top like a yarmulke.

I can rant with the best of 'em.

[yammy25]

You only seem concerned with trivial statistics about
a fighters earnings and television ratings. You don't
seem to comprehend that actions speak the loudest.
There is a reason that Boxrec does not rate fighters
based on their bank, or even bother recording such
information. Because it means nothing when you are
evaluating a fighter's actual boxing credentials.
If Danny Jacobs two most recent fights were the
most viewed fights in his career, it is because HBO
has a larger subscriber base and because of the
success Jacobs had garnered in the past. He was
like a snowball, building momentum KO victories and
fights against known commodities like Quillin, Mora,
and Golovkin. Under Hearn's watch, Jacobs' last two
opponents have been unknown, over matched, and
uninteresting unanimous decision losers. His next
opponent, Sergiy Derevyanchenko, will be more of
the same. Momentum finished. Hearn was involved
with Jacobs when he signed with HBO, but they
were obviously interested in Jacobs due to his
previous performances, not because of any
sales-pitch Hearn may have given them.
After broadcasting the last two 'stinkers', I'm sure
HBO must be second guessing Jacobs' value.
Hearn might be helping a few fighters get paid,
but he's not helping all of their competitive legacies.

The only people you may have seen me "slate"
are that turd who uses a photo of Amir Khan as
Sherlock Holmes, and SidKnee, who is another
gnat on a dog's balls. I usually prefer to respectfully
agree to disagree, but some of you Brits insist on
poking a mean, yet well-behaved, dog with a sharp
stick.

We can agree to disagree about Hearn, but we will
never see eye-to-eye since I keep talking about
actions, while you keep talking about transactions.
I keep talking about fistic sports, but all you seem
to care about are fiscal reports. I'm here to discuss
pugilism, not capitalism. I don't need a calculator
to collect my thoughts. I don't need an abacus
to let it fly off the top like a yarmulke.

I can rant with the best of 'em.

Derevyanchenko was apparently ducked by golovkin in the minds of most on here when he fought vanes..and outside of Canelo , GGG and Saunders and charlo is apparently the only MW worth a damn

Jacobs was coming off a loss ..his fights have been an eliminator and a final eliminator. They were necessary evils . He has now been successfully steered into a title shot and prior to that being made was mandatory in two governing bodies.

His last opponent is concensus top 20 and boxrec ranked 10th..also undefeated .

Jacobs' next fight i believe is also his last contracted HBO fight. Should he win.. he holds a belt and is free to go wherever he may wish with it.. more than likely DAZN .

As far as stinkers go... Jacobs last fight provided some of the highest ratings for any non PPV fight of any channel for the year. Now that might be because they have a higher sub base but only so many people want to watch boxing.

Good debate though ..glad it didn't regress to *****y name calling and sarcastic sniping

[Lemonhead_Jeff]

Derevyanchenko was apparently ducked by golovkin in the minds of most on here when he fought vanes..and outside of Canelo , GGG and Saunders and charlo is apparently the only MW worth a damn

Jacobs was coming off a loss ..his fights have been an eliminator and a final eliminator. They were necessary evils . He has now been successfully steered into a title shot and prior to that being made was mandatory in two governing bodies.

His last opponent is concensus top 20 and boxrec ranked 10th..also undefeated .

Jacobs' next fight i believe is also his last contracted HBO fight. Should he win.. he holds a belt and is free to go wherever he may wish with it.. more than likely DAZN .

As far as stinkers go... Jacobs last fight provided some of the highest ratings for any non PPV fight of any channel for the year. Now that might be because they have a higher sub base but only so many people want to watch boxing.

Good debate though ..glad it didn't regress to *****y name calling and sarcastic sniping

That's better, chum.
Derevyanchenko WAS avoided by Golovkin in favor of
an easier opponent. Derevyanchenko was in line to
challenge GGG, and he may or may not be up to it,
but he was unknown and nobody REALLY wanted to
see GGG fight him. Derevyanchenko is still unknown,
and nobody really wants to see him fight Jacobs either.
You called Jacob's previous two fights 'eliminators' and
'necessary evils', but Jacobs' fame & recognition were
at their peak after Jacobs' close loss to Golovkin. Hearn
could have opted to take Jacobs in a number of more
interesting and lucrative directions, against opponents
that are more well-known or more significant prospects.
Hearn could have tried to stir interest in a Jacobs vs
Sanders fight, to smite his rival promoter and put
Jacobs in a more significant fight. Hearn could have
done a number of things with Jacobs, but instead,
the three opponents have been lackluster unknowns.
Maybe yankee Jacobs is not Hearn's highest priority,
but he has done a lot more for a limited British brawler
like Whyte's career than he has done for Jacobs'.
He's managed to put Whyte in the ring with a number
of coveted opponents including former champions.
He's done nothing to put Jacobs in 'big' fights,
even though Jacobs was already a more established
name than Whyte. Nevermind that Jacobs was
coming off a loss. That was the fight that put him
over the top in terms of renown & recognition.

[yammy25]

That's better, chum.
Derevyanchenko WAS avoided by Golovkin in favor of
an easier opponent. Derevyanchenko was in line to
challenge GGG, and he may or may not be up to it,
but he was unknown and nobody REALLY wanted to
see GGG fight him. Derevyanchenko is still unknown,
and nobody really wants to see him fight Jacobs either.
You called Jacob's previous two fights 'eliminators' and
'necessary evils', but Jacobs' fame & recognition were
at their peak after Jacobs' close loss to Golovkin. Hearn
could have opted to take Jacobs in a number of more
interesting and lucrative directions, against opponents
that are more well-known or more significant prospects.
Hearn could have tried to stir interest in a Jacobs vs
Sanders fight, to smite his rival promoter and put
Jacobs in a more significant fight. Hearn could have
done a number of things with Jacobs, but instead,
the three opponents have been lackluster unknowns.
Maybe yankee Jacobs is not Hearn's highest priority,
but he has done a lot more for a limited British brawler
like Whyte's career than he has done for Jacobs'.
He's managed to put Whyte in the ring with a number
of coveted opponents including former champions.
He's done nothing to put Jacobs in 'big' fights,
even though Jacobs was already a more established
name than Whyte. Nevermind that Jacobs was
coming off a loss. That was the fight that put him
over the top in terms of renown & recognition.

He could never put him in with Saunders. Billy would overprice himself . It would always be voluntary meaning Saunders would have to be hugely overpaid to travel to America for the fight where it generates more revenue.

If he massively overpaid both for that fight to be in the UK Hearn loses so much money it's unreal. The fight wouldn't be a PPV to the buying UK public and it'd be millions down the drain.

I think outside of Canelo or GGG the only other fighters people would want to have seen him against is charlo or another PBC guy which just ain't gonna happen when your exclusively contracted to HBO.

I mean.. if Jacobs wins and gets the belt he's looking at a real opportunity for the mega fights again. Only problem being his belt is the IBF who are pretty annoying with the very stringent rule following

[MASTERBX]

Imagine Hearn trying to talk Manny Pacquiao out of taking 50 million dollars because he wants him to fight on an app!... lol!

[IMDAZED]

Derevyanchenko was apparently ducked by golovkin in the minds of most on here when he fought vanes..and outside of Canelo , GGG and Saunders and charlo is apparently the only MW worth a damn

Jacobs was coming off a loss ..his fights have been an eliminator and a final eliminator. They were necessary evils . He has now been successfully steered into a title shot and prior to that being made was mandatory in two governing bodies.

His last opponent is concensus top 20 and boxrec ranked 10th..also undefeated .

Jacobs' next fight i believe is also his last contracted HBO fight. Should he win.. he holds a belt and is free to go wherever he may wish with it.. more than likely DAZN .

As far as stinkers go... Jacobs last fight provided some of the highest ratings for any non PPV fight of any channel for the year. Now that might be because they have a higher sub base but only so many people want to watch boxing.

Good debate though ..glad it didn't regress to *****y name calling and sarcastic sniping

Jacobs’ numbers are fools gold. It’s definitely because of the subs on HBO. The rvent itself bombed, with less than 2,000 people paying for tickets. Easily the most papered major event of 2018.

[sayf]

I heard Hearn saying during a Boxing Voice Interview on Wilder v Fury, saying "I have rights on Joshua" explicitly.

He almost made it sound like a dog and his owner. I didn't like how he said it. Almost Arumish

You could say it's an Arumism, but I wouldn't put him in the same boat as Arum or even worse don king, who was the master at manipulating and taking advantage of fighters for his own financial gain. Both are bloodsuckers who did little to mask their blatant explotation of fighters.

Hearn, on the other hand, seems to be acting in the best interests of his fighters and is making them good money. It may not be the way the fans want stuff to go, but he seems to be working together with them to maximise their potential before they retire, even if that means ducking the big names for them. I can't blame him for doing that because obviously he gains financially by keeping his fighters undefeated for as long as possible but then so do his fighters.

Personally I would sign with Hearn if I had the talent and was a free agent and I wasn't too fussed about legacy. I can only see upsides in terms of money. Granted legacy may not be as great by bypassing the biggest names, but you can retire with security for your family.

It takes balls to face the best because if you lose on the way up it may be difficult to establish your name and demand big money.