Comments Thread For: Hearn: Wilder Has Lost The Plot, Doesn't Know What He's Doing!

[Boxingfanatic75]

So we will go by boxing fanatic75 official rankings? Outside the top 10 it is for Povetkin,Got it!

I see you did not take issue with the substance of what I said only attacking me. So I ask, was he not on PEDs for the majority of his wins? If he was then why should he get anything better than below a top 10?

[Boxingfanatic75]

WBO made Usyk a "super champion" at cruiserweight, not HW. That gives him the right to a mandatory challenge for the WBO HW title if he moves up.

That's not the same as giving him an actual HW title, and it's not really anything new. Throughout boxing history, if any one fighter clearly established himself as the undisputed best in his own division, he would always be given a shot at the champ in the division above, if he wanted it, because it would be a fight the fans wanted too.

The WBO just made it into a rule, and personally, I think it's a good rule. Anything that makes it harder for world champs to avoid fighting tough challengers is ok with me. And any fighter good enough to become a "super champion" by unifying a division has proved himself good enough to be a tough challenger for the champion in the division above.

I can see an argument for that. I just don’t like it because as HW boxers in the top 10 have to fight for their position to take on a HW champ that may fight once/twice per year a guy who has never fought in the division gets an immediate shot. I’m sure present HWs vying to get a shot aren’t pleased

[Scipio2009]

I get what you are saying, I do. The problem is, in the UK, Matchroom are aligned with Sky, that, in my opinion, is the biggest PPV.

Frank Warren is aligned with BT Sport that cannot really compete and is the second best PPV.

Also, in my opinion, Matchroom has a better stable that Warren and can produce the bigger audiences so if it was to be in the UK, you can't really look past an event being put on by Hearn and Matchroom because the ties and infrastructure to make big nights happen.

Can Frank Warren get Wilder/Fury, BJ Saunders, Selby and Frampton to fight on the same night? I'm not 100% but it seems unlikely.

After the Whyte/Parker event, its put Matchroom, Chisora and Whyte on the tongues of British boxing fans so obviously that's the events that people will want to go to. Just that alone, in my opinion, makes AJ the A side. I can't see Fury being the A-side regardless of a WBC title/lineal. AJ fans probably account for the majority of boxing fans in the UK, including casuals, to them; he is the man to beat regardless of the lineal because Fury isn't really relevant until he beats a decent opponent. 1 good win doesn't make you the A side, in my opinion, you need the fans, the infrastructure and the belts. AJ has all three, duck or no duck.

I'm sure some fans will think otherwise.

The point is, you won't need that all on one show. With LSC-GRJ in the works, Josh Warrington not in any rush to fight, and Bob Arum likely not letting Valdez fight off of ESPN, the pickings are what they are

Still, with Wilder-Fury in Las Vegas (Davis vs Farmer as the chief support works), you could also book Frampton vs Galahad to headline a show in the UK (could have Liam Smith, Jack Catterall, DuBois, etc under that).

Pair the two events.

[Noelanthony]

I see you did not take issue with the substance of what I said only attacking me. So I ask, was he not on PEDs for the majority of his wins? If he was then why should he get anything better than below a top 10?

Attack you ?? never, I always come in peace

[Randall Cunning]

Wilder v Fury has wiped out £100m from AJ regardless of who wins.

Wilder is a genius.

Hearn - check mate.

Not really checkmate. Hearn could torpedo it, just call Warren and say "April, Wembley, 50/50, you cant fight Wilder though". Theyd drop the Wilder fight in a heartbeat.

[Noelanthony]

But how do we know if Wilder would be good enough to pole axe Chisora in 3 rounds when his best win is Ortiz, and Ortiz's best win was Bryant Jennings, 3 years ago?

3 years is a long time for a fighter as old as Ortiz!

There's a weird kind of circular reasoning being used to build up both Wilder and Ortiz ... we know Wilder is good because he KO'd Ortiz, and we know Ortiz is good because he almost KO'd Wilder.

That makes no sense to me. We won't know how good either of them are till one of them fights somebody like a Chisora or a Whyte.

I will be honest I do not rate Whyte or Chisora but especially Chisora. I saw him fight a Turkish or Bosnian guy in Monte Carlo and he got absolutely embarrassed. I actually thought Takam would destroy him so kudos to him for surviving that onslaught. I prefer Whyte, but do I, I thought when they both fought Chisora nicked it.

Whyte has the worst balance I have ever seen on a fighter. Wilder is a close second though. Having said that I wouldn’t be surprised if Whyte beat Ortiz but Wilder will put them both to sleep. No way I’m attaching my name to those two. This is a mission you are going to have to go it alone...Good luck

[PrBoxing88]

Me too and I will take a flat fee

lmao, anything they want except being a bich..haha

[Noelanthony]

Wilder v Fury has wiped out £100m from AJ regardless of who wins.

Wilder is a genius.

Hearn - check mate.

You are going to have to elaborate on your statement . That is

1 How do you come to the figure of 100 million being wiped out regardless who wins

2 How is Wilder a genius ?

3 How on earth is it checkmate for Hearn? Surely you understand what checkmate means

[Travycat]

I don't remember Povetkin getting knocked down much before the Klitschko fight (what was that--8 times?), then got floored by a glorified journeyman in Price. You can talk about Price's power all you want, but the skillset didn't match it. It's all subjective in this discussion anyway, bud.

Not quite bud in regards to klitschko theory before chisora koed takam after the aj fight. Povetkin had already destroyed takam before the aj fight so why didnt aj destroy him after pov?

[Calibaloc]

It's quite simple, really. Wilder has made a career of fighting easy targets. So which is the better plan: fighting potentially dangerous opponents with little reward in the event of a win, or fighting the lineal champion, who has been away from the ring for 2.5 years, battling obesity, drug & alcohol addiction and depression? Beating a compromised Fury will put Wilder in a great position to demand top dollar to fight Joshua. Tyson would be ill-advised to face Wilder after only two tune-up fights.

Why are you worried isn't Wilder a crap windmilling bum Slayer? Fury shouldn't have any problems after 2 tune ups right? You fake fans always contradict yourselves smh