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  • #81
    Originally posted by mcdonalds View Post
    Floyd tried to fight cotto around 05/06 but arum and cotto said no. Manny and arum actually didn't agree to the demands in 2011, they said they didn't want USADA involved lol. So how is that agreeing to the demands when you have a problem USADA, an organization that handles US Olympic sports?

    Anyway, this thread isnt about that. Please point out a better run of consecutive opponents. Floyd fought nothing but other champions and P4P fighters in 12 consecutive fights, who else has done that?

    He retired at their peak. So who knows if it would have happen or not.

    Floyd requested that arum shouldn’t be involved. That pac should accept 40million dollar flat fee. That he should sign to his promotional company.

    Then suddenly in 2015 it didn’t matter one bit.lol when pac can no longer KO the algieris of the world. When pac was already planked by marquez working with arum was suddenly totally okay. 60-40 split was okay.

    Like I said Manny left arum in 2011 and negotiated. Mayweather could have negotiated seriously at that point since Arum no longer pull the strings but he didn’t. He simply threw the 40 million dollar flat fee that’s it!! Nothing more!

    If Manny didn’t really want the fight why did he initiate to even send koncz to Floyd’s camp??

    Floyd had never shown any kind of initiative to make the fight thru 2010-2012. And he claims to call the shots!
    He was all silent in 2010-2012

    Coming casually out with articles like:
    “Self preservation” “ali shouldn’t have fought norton, he shouldn’t have been pushed to fight the fight fans want”
    “As long as i’m comfortable, then call me a rich coward”
    “Manny is so desperate to fight me”

    Know what his father said after the fight?

    “Manny will be known as the fighter who chased floyd his entire career and then lost”

    That’s so easy to read man.
    And I like floyd a lot. But when it comes to Manny, i’d forever argue he didnt want that fight when it mattered.

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    • #82
      Floyd consistently didn't fight the fighters that the general public wanted him to fight and when the pressure mounted or he was backed into a corner, he would retire. No matter much time passes, ill never forget this.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by dibzvincent143 View Post
        He retired at their peak. So who knows if it would have happen or not.

        Floyd requested that arum shouldn’t be involved. That pac should accept 40million dollar flat fee. That he should sign to his promotional company.

        Then suddenly in 2015 it didn’t matter one bit.lol when pac can no longer KO the algieris of the world. When pac was already planked by marquez working with arum was suddenly totally okay. 60-40 split was okay.

        Like I said Manny left arum in 2011 and negotiated. Mayweather could have negotiated seriously at that point since Arum no longer pull the strings but he didn’t. He simply threw the 40 million dollar flat fee that’s it!! Nothing more!

        If Manny didn’t really want the fight why did he initiate to even send koncz to Floyd’s camp??

        Floyd had never shown any kind of initiative to make the fight thru 2010-2012. And he claims to call the shots!
        He was all silent in 2010-2012

        Coming casually out with articles like:
        “Self preservation” “ali shouldn’t have fought norton, he shouldn’t have been pushed to fight the fight fans want”
        “As long as i’m comfortable, then call me a rich coward”
        “Manny is so desperate to fight me”

        Know what his father said after the fight?

        “Manny will be known as the fighter who chased floyd his entire career and then lost”

        That’s so easy to read man.
        And I like floyd a lot. But when it comes to Manny, i’d forever argue he didnt want that fight when it mattered.
        The only report of it being a flat fee fame from the Philippines. Are you really gonna believe that when arum and Pacquiao have lied countless times throughout the negotiations? Floyd himself said that it was the purse amount, not including PPV. It's one word vs another so we can't argue about that. However.....

        Let's take a look at the FACTS though. You know, things that can actually be proven:

        Manny backed out due to drug testing in 2010 = FACT

        Bob arum lied about negotiations and about Manny agreeing to drug testing demands later in 2010= FACT

        Manny and Bob arum said no to USADA in 2011= FACT

        Manny needed more time to heal from a "cut" according to arum so he couldn't fight Floyd in May 2012= FACT

        Bob arum said they needed more time to build a stadium in vegas =FACT

        Bob arum wanted a 50/50 split= FACT

        Bob arum released a list of future opponent for Manny that didn't include Floyd = FACT

        Bob arum wanted Manny to fight Marquez on May 5th because he thought Floyd would be in jail by the =FACT

        and the list goes on and on. Oh and by the way Manny didn't leave arum in 2011, so stop making things up

        Now answer this question: Who has a better run of consecutive opponents???

        If you can't answer that question then get out of my thread.
        Last edited by mcdonalds; 08-07-2018, 11:23 PM.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by sbbigmike View Post
          Floyd can't force people to fight him his biggest threats blatantly ducked him in Mosley, Manny and cotto openly too, do u forget about toothaches, and needles....


          Floyd even tried to jump from 140 and face winky at 54 yet he was blamed for that fight falling thru

          The Floyd I saw fight, Hof’ers like Barrera, prince, and Morales couldn't mumble his name within pounds of him, is that Floyd fault too
          Morales punked floyd and made him storm off crying out of the gym.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by mcdonalds View Post
            The only report of it being a flat fee fame from the Philippines. Are you really gonna believe that when arum and Pacquiao have lied countless times throughout the negotiations? Floyd himself said that it was the purse amount, not including PPV. It's one word vs another so we can't argue about that. However.....

            Let's take a look at the FACTS though. You know, things that can actually be proven:

            Manny backed out due to drug testing in 2010 = FACT

            Bob arum lied about negotiations and about Manny agreeing to drug testing demands later in 2010= FACT

            Manny and Bob arum said no to USADA in 2011= FACT

            Manny needed more time to heal from a "cut" according to arum so he couldn't fight Floyd in May 2012= FACT

            Bob arum said they needed more time to build a stadium in vegas =FACT

            Bob arum wanted a 50/50 split= FACT

            Bob arum released a list of future opponent for Manny that didn't include Floyd = FACT

            Bob arum wanted Manny to fight Marquez on May 5th because he thought Floyd would be in jail by the =FACT

            and the list goes on and on. Oh and by the way Manny didn't leave arum in 2011, so stop making things up

            Now answer this question: Who has a better run of consecutive opponents???

            If you can't answer that question then get out of my thread.
            LOL Floyd never wanted the fight. Arum never wanted the fight. Atleast manny did and why would he be scared of Floyd in the first place?

            Working with arum didnt matter in the end = fact.
            Signing with his promotions didn’t matter = fact
            Split didn’t matter in the end = fact
            He still has marquez problems didn’t matter in the end = fact
            Goes haywire every interview when asks about pac = fact

            6 years later fought pac. No problem with any issues. It’s nonsense to think that the Fighter that is more dangerous in his prime would be scared of someone who does less damage with his style prime or not.

            You’re a total idiot if you think the fight would have been the same had it happen in 2009.

            And the answer to your thread is Pac himself. If we base it on your criteria, which doesn’t include the story/truth behind them.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by daggum View Post
              leonard fought benitez, duran twice, hearns, and the 154 pound lineal champ in less than 2 years.. .all prime fighters and all at their actual weight, no bringing guys up or draining them floyd style. it took 8 years for floyd to fight a bunch of old guys and baldomir?
              Duran's best weight class was NOT welterweight, it was lightweight. Benitez was only 21 years old yet guys like you say Canelo at 23 years old was "too young."

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              • #87
                Originally posted by dibzvincent143 View Post
                Did he even try making the Cotto fight? Last time I checked he retired when they were at their prime and hotshots at 147.

                When Manny’s contract with Arum was briefly over in 2011 he sent Koncz to Floyd’s gym to negotiate for the fight. What happened? 40m deal breaker was offered.
                People like to act that Manny didn’t agree to the testing til 2015. He already agreed to it in 2011.

                Needles and gyms are all arums excuses.

                There are others that are calling out Floyd as well. Williams, Margarito and Sergio.
                Don’t you think they would have been better wins esp if he beats them in their prime than the ones he currently have?

                Like I sad it’s a really really good resume. But it’s his fault there is something to say about it.

                We can say the same for pac.
                His best wins would probably be Bradley, barrera and Marquez at 130 only.

                Floyd corrales and castillo.
                You can add hatton at 147.


                starting a post like that is all we need to know

                it is common knowledge that he did

                you will need at least common knowledge to add something meaningful to this conversation

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by dibzvincent143 View Post
                  blah blah blah

                  I just noticed that you live in the Philippines

                  now I get it

                  NO, Pac is not greater than Mayweather lol

                  give it up

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                  • #89
                    can you compare Mayweather to Leonard ?

                    no

                    did he have a PHENOMENAL run anyways ?

                    uh-huh, yesiree bob he did

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
                      I just noticed that you live in the Philippines

                      now I get it

                      NO, Pac is not greater than Mayweather lol

                      give it up
                      So all americans should be bias to floyd also right?

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