Comments Thread For: Mikey Garcia: Spence More Important To Me Than Pacquiao

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  • Mzembe
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    #41
    Originally posted by Bjl12
    It's not a given Mikey beats Manny although that's a hard fight for Manny due to Mikeys movement (which we haven't seen much of lately, but we would against Manny or Errol).

    That being said I have already stated I strongly believe Manny destroys Spence - even today. Mannys style would cause Spence nightmares...manny is faster, as powerful, and has very fast feet.

    Spence leaves himself wide open when he starts teeing off on opponents who stand right in front of him - like a heavybag. Manny is no heavy bag and he can throw hurting punches while moving.

    I like TC to beat Manny, Mikey, and Errol in different fashion b/c of styles though
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    A fighter's style never changes. They can make adjustments during training based on the opponent they will be facing. It is that reason that I love Miguel Cotto for. He was always prepared and even in loss he gave it all.

    PAC got beat 4 times by JMM, you could say arguably so I'll leave that at that. But he did get knocked out cold by an almost 40 year old JMM. In his prime and in his best weight PAC also got beat by Morales and was given a good fight by Morales.

    After moving up in weight, the big names that PAC beat were all riddled with asterisks ... a weight drained Oscar, Cotto and Margarito ... all fought at catch weights to give PAC an advantage which he got.
    After that PAC's resume is littered with garbage like Brandon Rios, a virtual unknown (at the time) Algieri, Horn (unknown at the time and useless anyway), David Diaz (at 135), Hatton who had lost to Floyd, Clottey who just refused to engage and was clearly in it for a pay day, Mathysse who was 5 years removed from his best days.

    My question to you is how come PAC has never fought a legit WW or even Jr WW?

    And somehow you believe PAC can beat Spence? How is that even logical? PAC gets beat by better boxers. He looks special against ****ers with no movement.

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    • Squ□redCircle34
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      #42
      Mikey would stop Pacquiao with his superior timing and flawless positional technique not to mention better jab!

      I think against Spence he will win the first 2 rounds and that's when the beginning of his inevitable demise will come as he physically, mentally, spiritually and emotionally gets broken down cuz The Truth always comes out on top!

      Garcia TKO's Pacman 12th round

      Spence KO's Garcia 3 or 4th round!

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      • ShoulderRoll
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        #43
        Pacquiao sells on PPV. Mikey can sell too against the right opponent, because of the Mexican fanbase.

        It's a no brainer that Pac vs Garcia should happen.

        It would mean $$$ for everyone involved.

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        • Bjl12
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          #44
          Originally posted by Mzembe
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          A fighter's style never changes. They can make adjustments during training based on the opponent they will be facing. It is that reason that I love Miguel Cotto for. He was always prepared and even in loss he gave it all.

          PAC got beat 4 times by JMM, you could say arguably so I'll leave that at that. But he did get knocked out cold by an almost 40 year old JMM. In his prime and in his best weight PAC also got beat by Morales and was given a good fight by Morales.

          After moving up in weight, the big names that PAC beat were all riddled with asterisks ... a weight drained Oscar, Cotto and Margarito ... all fought at catch weights to give PAC an advantage which he got.
          After that PAC's resume is littered with garbage like Brandon Rios, a virtual unknown (at the time) Algieri, Horn (unknown at the time and useless anyway), David Diaz (at 135), Hatton who had lost to Floyd, Clottey who just refused to engage and was clearly in it for a pay day, Mathysse who was 5 years removed from his best days.

          My question to you is how come PAC has never fought a legit WW or even Jr WW?

          And somehow you believe PAC can beat Spence? How is that even logical? PAC gets beat by better boxers. He looks special against ****ers with no movement.
          Never fought a legit WW or JWW? He beat/dominated Tim Bradley 3 times...a former lineal JWW champion...

          Style-wise I think Manny is a difficult matchup for Errol - who hasn't fought anyone even remotely close to "elite" yet. The people that trouble Manny are counter-punchers with a good defense.

          The people that Manny does well with are come forward plodders with no defense. I think Errol is a massive hypetrain and a guy like Manny blows him up - even at this stage

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          • Jsmooth9876
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            #45
            Originally posted by FLY TY
            Maybe the dude feels a win over a "real" champion in his 5th division, does more for his legacy than beating an old, washed up, former steroid abuser with a fake belt.
            Reading comprehension not your strong suit? The dude said if Garcia beats Spence it trumps ANYTHING manny had ever accomplished. Not beating Spence is better than beating Manny now, which pretty much anyone who has half a brain should agree with.

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            • brettWall
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              #46
              Translation: I am avoiding Pac. He's still too dangerous for me right now. I'd rather fight Spence.

              That's probably the reason why the name Spence came out of the blue from Garcia's mouth, to avoid Pac in advance. But I still give him credit for challenging himself against an equally dangerous opponent.

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              • huberth
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                #47
                Be careful what you wish for

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                • Larry the boss
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Bjl12
                  It's not a given Mikey beats Manny although that's a hard fight for Manny due to Mikeys movement (which we haven't seen much of lately, but we would against Manny or Errol).

                  I have Mikey 60/40 over Manny and 40/60 against Errol. Mikey is no doubt more skilled than Errol, but also 2 weight classes smaller

                  That being said I have already stated I strongly believe Manny destroys Spence - even today. Mannys style would cause Spence nightmares...manny is faster, as powerful, and has very fast feet.

                  Spence leaves himself wide open when he starts teeing off on opponents who stand right in front of him - like a heavybag. Manny is no heavy bag and he can throw hurting punches while moving.

                  I like TC to beat Manny, Mikey, and Errol in different fashion b/c of styles though
                  Mikey's movement?? let me go youtube some more of his fights cause I may have missed that

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                  • GhostofDempsey
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                    #49
                    Both PAC and Spence will derail the Mikey train. Mikey isn't half the fighter Marquez is, and he won't show PAC anything he hasn't seen before.

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                    • Bjl12
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
                      Both PAC and Spence will derail the Mikey train. Mikey isn't half the fighter Marquez is, and he won't show PAC anything he hasn't seen before.
                      Pac is half the fighter he was though.

                      Mikey would be favorite today for good reason

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