What makes Wilder think he's worth more than $15 million?

[N/A]

Where is it coming from?
He knew, everybody knew, the heavyweight division has lost popularity in America for the last decades.
The welterweight division is still the center of attraction,
yet even it's B-sides are not as greedy as Deontay.
That's why I can never be a fan of this guy.

hearn claims 15 mill is 37.5%. if thats true, just give him the percentage. flat fee is unheard of for a fight of this size.

[TheBigLug]

He'll be happy to accept it if it's done in the UK.
Did he say he wants more?
In contrast, Wilder says it's crack money.

He made $17 million in the Parker fight.
$20 mil in the Klitschko fight.
Wilder makes an average of $1.2 mil per fight.
And he says no to an offer of $15 million.
The 4 titles have no value to the greedy guy.

$50m is still an incredible amount of money that nobody barring Mayweather would turn down. Floyd probably only made above that in a few of his fights, so why does AJ think he's worth more than $50m when it's still far more than he ever has or will earn?

[EnglishOxide]

What makes Joshua think he's worth more than $50m? Presumably he doesn't think that's enough if he turned it down.

He might make big money, but he isn't making anywhere near $50m a fight..

If he is making $20/30m currently and Wilder is making $2/3m currently why the hell would Joshua accept a deal where there is a possibility that he gets $50m and Wilder gets $50m from a 50/50 split?

The better it sells the worse deal it becomes for him. It's not a risk worth taking when there is no evidence that Wilder is the one bringing the money to the table.

[Larry the boss]

yet another thread from you about Wilder and his money...Get over it and move on, Wilder found someone willing to fight him without the obstacles....

[Larry the boss]

these are literally your last few threads...seek help FAST


What makes Wilder think he's worth more than $15 million? (Multi-page thread 1 2)
genrick
Today 04:36 PM
by larryxxx.. Go to last post
13 58 Non Stop Boxing

deal, difficult, side, wilder, with? Go to first new post
Is Wilder the most difficult B side to deal with? (Multi-page thread 1 2 3 ... Last Page)
genrick
08-01-2018 04:23 PM
by mathed Go to last post
78 1,994 Non Stop Boxing
You have 5 post(s) in this thread, last 07-28-2018
beats, breazeale, wilder? Go to first new post What if Breazeale beats Wilder? (Multi-page thread 1 2 3 ... Last Page)
genrick
07-29-2018 12:43 PM
by Rip Chudd Go to last post
66 1,143 Non Stop Boxing
You have 2 post(s) in this thread, last 07-20-2018
breazeale, confirmed, fight, wilder? Go to first new post Is the Breazeale fight confirmed for Wilder? (Multi-page thread 1 2 3 ... Last Page)
genrick
07-28-2018 05:37 AM
by MasterPlan Go to last post
44 1,103 Non Stop Boxing
You have 9 post(s) in this thread, last 07-15-2018
deontay, options..., wilder's Go to first new post Deontay Wilder's other options... (Multi-page thread 1 2 3 ... Last Page)
genrick
07-27-2018 09:00 PM
by juggernaut666 Go to last post
101 1,974 Non Stop Boxing
You have 4 post(s) in this thread, last 07-03-2018
povetkin, wins... Go to first new post If Povetkin wins... (Multi-page thread 1 2 3 ... Last Page)
genrick
07-25-2018 09:57 PM
by champion4ever Go to last post
126 2,071 Non Stop Boxing

fights, happened...., hundreds Why is it that hundreds of fights happened....
genrick
07-21-2018 01:50 PM
by genrick Go to last post
1 179 Non Stop Boxing
You have 2 post(s) in this thread, last 07-06-2018
breazeale, date, fight?, place, wilder Any date and place for the Wilder vs Breazeale fight? (Multi-page thread 1 2 3 ... Last Page)
genrick
07-18-2018 06:12 PM
by genrick Go to last post
36 1,039 Non Stop Boxing

million, offer..., yeah Yeah the $50 million offer... (Multi-page thread 1 2 3 ... Last Page)
genrick
07-18-2018 03:30 PM
by genrick Go to last post
40 1,166 Non Stop Boxing
You have 4 post(s) in this thread, last 07-07-2018
case, lucrative, offer..., side, turned Have there been a case where the B side turned down a lucrative offer... (Multi-page thread 1 2 3 ... Last Page)
genrick
07-08-2018 06:58 PM
by QueensburyRules Go to last post
50 1,029 Non Stop Boxing
You have 6 post(s) in this thread, last 07-04-2018
failed, fight, secure, side?, sides How many B sides failed to secure a fight with the A side? (Multi-page thread 1 2 3 ... Last Page)
genrick
07-06-2018 09:22 PM
by juggernaut666 Go to last post
32 717 Non Stop Boxing
You have 2 post(s) in this thread, last 07-02-2018
hearn, million..., offer How is it that Hearn can offer as much as $5 million... (Multi-page thread 1 2)
genrick
07-02-2018 11:24 PM
by Rip Chudd Go to last post
15 590 Non Stop Boxing
You have 2 post(s) in this thread, last 06-30-2018
beating, enough..., gain, stiverne, title Is beating Stiverne to gain the WBC title enough... (Multi-page thread 1 2 3)
genrick
07-01-2018 06:02 AM
by White Willie Go to last post
22 523 Non Stop Boxing

breazeale, fight?, offered, wilder How much is being offered to Breazeale for the Wilder fight? (Multi-page thread 1 2)
genrick

[Illmatic94]

have you been under a rock or just under Hearn's scrotum??

Wilder ACCEPTED the $15million. BUT when the contract arrived it had no damn date. then it was revealed Hearn wanted April 2019 all along which is not the impression Wilder or any boxing fan was under.

why would Wilder accept a flat fee for a fight next year when circumstances can change. the fight gets projected to do even more by then but he's locked himself into $15 million. that'll be idiotic on his part.

the real question is why did AJ turn down $50 milllion plus PPV upside??

[R_Walken]

When Wilder as the B side is in the biggest financial fight that could generate over 100 mil

He deserves at least that much. What was Golovkin highest purse before he fought Canelo ?

It’s both the A & B side that make huge fights l. He should be paid accordingly

[TheBigLug]

If he is making $20/30m currently and Wilder is making $2/3m currently why the hell would Joshua accept a deal where there is a possibility that he gets $50m and Wilder gets $50m from a 50/50 split?

The better it sells the worse deal it becomes for him. It's not a risk worth taking when there is no evidence that Wilder is the one bringing the money to the table.

Haha but the $50m was AJ's price, he said it..

The 50m was nothing to do with a split though, it was a flat fee, like they offered Wilder. I don't think Wilder was getting 50m too.

By offering Wilder a flat fee from a potentially huge PPV and gate, $15m might end up being less than he could get if he takes like 35%. So it works both ways if you want to talk about splits and flat fee's.

Whichever way you spin it, Joshua named his price and then backed out when they called his bluff.

If you're asking why the hell AJ would accept $50m, then ask yourself why did he say he would fight for that amount firstly.

[SinderellaMan]

Haymon.
He holds the largest viewing audience for network cable fights (free).
And let me address the small Alabama crowds.
He fought at home for the love of his state on prime time cable, during peak college football viewing times. His audiences were small because the Alabama Crimson Tide would play on those same nights. It was a strategy to pull viewers over during halftime & it worked.
If you think that Alabama doesn’t have big bucks, think again.
But Wilder has chosen to fight abroad because that’s what real champions do.
His value isn’t based on what Hearn states & compares to Juishua.
And if Wilder is such a bum than why is Hearn so desperate to sign him to DAZN?

[EnglishOxide]

The 50m was nothing to do with a split though, it was a flat fee, like they offered Wilder. I don't think Wilder was getting 50m too.

offering Wilder a flat fee from a potentially huge PPV and gate. $15m might end up being less than he could get if he takes like 35%.

So it works both ways.

The $50m had everything to do with the split. The 50m didn't exist without a 50/50 split on the condition that if the fight exceeds financial expectations then Wilder gets 50% too.

That means that AJ could have been stuck on $50m whilst Wilders purse goes up from $5m to $49m.

When it comes to business, and not silly YouTube videos, you don't expel yourself from that cut of the purse, even if it ends up being less than the 'guarantee' he asked for.

People want to talk about flat fees and percentages when it comes to Wilder, but when it comes to AJ he's supposed to just accept it?

If Wilder was serious about the fight and it taking place in the US he would have offered anywhere between 70/30 and 60/40 to AJ to try and buy home advantage instead of playing PR games and not sending a contract when it was actually asked for.

Even at 70/30, in Vegas, if Wilder was THAT confident in the finances he would have taken it. That way he would have got home advantage AND AT LEAST the $15m he's been offered to fight in the UK, right?

IF it's a $100m purse and it's 70/30 to AJ then Wilder still gets $30m.

But he, verbally at least, ACCEPTED a $15m flat fee for the UK. Why not go back with another counter offer for the US fight if he was serious about fighting him?