whys wilder getting so much credit for going after fury?

[bigjavi973]

Takam is known to be a rather tough customer and Parker was previously undefeated. And what else...? Oh yeah, Joshua beat them both.

Wilder has struggled against Molina and Szpilka & damned near got KO'd by Ortiz, whom many consider to be old. And he beat them all too.

So what are we talking about here? Is either fighter perfect? No. Can both fighters fill a 90K seat soccer stadium? No, that type of drawing power belongs to Anthony Joshua ALONE.

nowadays you know you cant go by just cuz a guy is undefeated.... yea undefeated but what was his best win? Fat andy ruiz... thats it.... and he just lost to whyte as well so he already has one questionable win (ruiz) and 2 losses already...

hes not as good as he was made out to be its just that simple


and takam? really?




thats all that needs to be said/showed about takam LOL


molina fought one fight only, stay away from wilders right, but he ended up getting caught spilzka did the same and he went night night...

now NO ONE HERE is claiming that wilder is this boxing god sent from above that his techniques are sometimes, wild.....

so idk why that is something that alot of ya bring up about wilder, even tho his supporters NEVER do bring that up....

we all know whats up...

JAB.... straight right...... and imo does better technique wise with every fight he fights.

[SUBZER0ED]

im not rallying behind him cuz hes american

you can go try that nonsense with someone else....

again 15 million flat fee he accepted and then there was NO DATE NO VENUE

would you sign that fight with no date or venue for 15 mill FLAT FEE?


and if wilder wanted the big money all along, why did he offer up 50 million to AJ while he took the short end?

Then why are you rallying behind Wilder? You know he's trash with a big punch and titanium steel pins in his power hand.

The date and venue issue could have easily been resolved.

Wilder's people knew just like we all knew, Joshua has stated he wants the fight in the UK and has never said otherwise.

[bigjavi973]

Then why are you rallying behind Wilder? You know he's trash with a big punch and titanium steel pins in his power hand.

The date and venue issue could have easily been resolved.

Wilder's people knew just like we all knew, Joshua has stated he wants the fight in the UK and has never said otherwise.

and wilder stated that he has NO PROBLEM fighting in the UK.... just not for a flat fee

its really just that simple....

well hes not trash imo.... if he was what would that make Ortiz who had a stellar amateur background with over 200 wins etc?

and those steel pins have nothing to do with anything because as you know he would have to get medical clearance to fight with his hand surgeries etc but nice try


if you dont like the guy.... just go outright and say it... you dont have to make up stuff just to make yourself sound cool or what not

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nowadays you know you cant go by just cuz a guy is undefeated.... yea undefeated but what was his best win? Fat andy ruiz... thats it.... and he just lost to whyte as well so he already has one questionable win (ruiz) and 2 losses already...

hes not as good as he was made out to be its just that simple


and takam? really?




thats all that needs to be said/showed about takam LOL


molina fought one fight only, stay away from wilders right, but he ended up getting caught spilzka did the same and he went night night...

now NO ONE HERE is claiming that wilder is this boxing god sent from above that his techniques are sometimes, wild.....

so idk why that is something that alot of ya bring up about wilder, even tho his supporters NEVER do bring that up....

we all know whats up...

JAB.... straight right...... and imo does better technique wise with every fight he fights.

That equilibrium shot is what ruined Takam.

Hell, Wilder should be looking better; he's had 40 fights to improve under Mark Breland, drilling it into his head.

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and wilder stated that he has NO PROBLEM fighting in the UK.... just not for a flat fee

its really just that simple....

well hes not trash imo.... if he was what would that make Ortiz who had a stellar amateur background with over 200 wins etc?

and those steel pins have nothing to do with anything because as you know he would have to get medical clearance to fight with his hand surgeries etc but nice try


if you dont like the guy.... just go outright and say it... you dont have to make up stuff just to make yourself sound cool or what not

Wilder was ok with $15 million before, according to him.

Those steel pins reinforce his hand, but I digress.

Ortiz punched himself out and lacked conditioning. Also, Wilder was stumbling around the ring, unable to defend himself. I've seen fights stopped for much less.

Make no mistake, homie, I don't like his amateuristic, country ass.

[Madison Boxing]

and wilder stated that he has NO PROBLEM fighting in the UK.... just not for a flat fee

its really just that simple....

well hes not trash imo.... if he was what would that make Ortiz who had a stellar amateur background with over 200 wins etc?

and those steel pins have nothing to do with anything because as you know he would have to get medical clearance to fight with his hand surgeries etc but nice try


if you dont like the guy.... just go outright and say it... you dont have to make up stuff just to make yourself sound cool or what not

does the cheque not get processed if its flat fee? u guys make me laugh, all saying 'oh wilder deserves more money to fight joshua rather than fury' isnt that basically proof that joshuas the one bringing in all the money? and if joshuas bringing in the cash why does wilder deserve a hand out. He can get the same rate the others get, maybe a bit more. Certainly not a lot more than parker who was an undefeated world champ. You dont get a premium cause u are american.

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Yea and those contenders were pretty bad, so maybe just maybe Joshua just isnt that good

Ok Larry. We'll just have to wait and see. For now, he's 21-0.

[j.razor]

Am i missing something? it seems as if hes the hero of the forum at the moment but basically he turned down the joshua contract to fight for less money against a less risky opponent. if money was the issue whys he gonna fight for less.
I imagine theres been negotiations with fury for a while so lets not pretend its just suddenly popped up out of nowhere now joshua signed for povetkin....

Aj asked for 50 million then said you train & fight Wilder so Fury it is.

[j.razor]

Because people know Wilder ducked AJ and are now trying to save face because Wilder is fighting a guy with 1 fight in 3 years, recovering from crack ******* addiction and multiple mental breakdowns. Fury is easy pickings but they want to hype him up like he is the man to beat, LMAO. All smoke and mirrors.

But if it were Aj fighting him you would say he's fighting the man that beat the man so GTFOH you poser.

[j.razor]

yeah cause the money is made by the A side joshua. He should get a bit above the normal going rate for being a joshua opponent- 15 mill is more than generous

But for some reason to you Aj boys 50million wasn't "generous? LMMFAO!