whys wilder getting so much credit for going after fury?

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  • SUBZER0ED
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    #51
    Originally posted by bigjavi973
    retirement check?

    see when I see idiotic comments like that I know not to take that poster serious at all in boxing.....

    how did he want a retirement check when hes the one that OFFERED up 50 million freakin dollars that AJ said NO! to?

    Wilder himself didn't offer up shit. You're actually going to sit there, acting like you don't know that Joshua has wanted that fight in the UK from day one. Wilder said that he accepted that the fight would be in England, and initially accepted $15 million. Now, he says he wants a 50-50 split, or no fight. You know this. And what's changed to justify such a drastic demand? Nothing. Wilder wanted that big money all along. He even insisted that he be guaranteed a Joshua fight if he lost to Whyte! That you're rallying behind Wilder just because he's American is sad.

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      #52
      Originally posted by SUBZER0ED
      Wilder himself didn't offer up shit. You're actually going to sit there, acting like you don't know that Joshua has wanted that fight in the UK from day one. Wilder said that he accepted that the fight would be in England, and initially accepted $15 million. Now, he says he wants a 50-50 split, or no fight. You know this. And what's changed to justify such a drastic demand? Nothing. Wilder wanted that big money all along. He even insisted that he be guaranteed a Joshua fight if he lost to Whyte! That you're rallying behind Wilder just because he's American is sad.
      'but but but hearn cant be trusted doe....'

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      • Phenom
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        #53
        These AJ fanboys are ridiculous

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          #54
          Originally posted by SUBZER0ED
          You guys have seen Wladimir Klitschko's fights and his opponents. He looked better losing to Joshua than he did in beating some of those "contenders".

          and you have seen AJ "destroy" everyone else even KO wlad but somehow seemingly struggled with takam and parker

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            #55
            I wasn't aware that he was getting that much credit. Can you provide examples of same?

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              #56
              Originally posted by chrisJS
              I’ve stopped reading about fights that take a while to get made. I generally do that because it turns into a puddings match between biased fans who are more interested in such dramas than the actual fights but I did see Wilder rejected an offer that would have made the fight at a moment Joshua was pressured to fill a mandatory obligation.
              well thats just not true...

              when wilder offered the 50 mil they quickly shot it down by saying they have to see proof of funds.... when they did show proof, hearn went and moved the goal post some more asking for "details" etc... and when that was covered he moved it again some more and it kept going. Who in their right minds would turn down a 50 million offer is crazy and did not really want that fight


              oh and the guy that AJ is going to fight was already signed up to fight wilder but popped for PEDs for that time and a fight with dauhappuas afterwards as well

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                #57
                Originally posted by SUBZER0ED
                Wilder himself didn't offer up shit. You're actually going to sit there, acting like you don't know that Joshua has wanted that fight in the UK from day one. Wilder said that he accepted that the fight would be in England, and initially accepted $15 million. Now, he says he wants a 50-50 split, or no fight. You know this. And what's changed to justify such a drastic demand? Nothing. Wilder wanted that big money all along. He even insisted that he be guaranteed a Joshua fight if he lost to Whyte! That you're rallying behind Wilder just because he's American is sad.
                im not rallying behind him cuz hes american

                you can go try that nonsense with someone else....

                again 15 million flat fee he accepted and then there was NO DATE NO VENUE

                would you sign that fight with no date or venue for 15 mill FLAT FEE?


                and if wilder wanted the big money all along, why did he offer up 50 million to AJ while he took the short end?

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                  #58
                  For all of the guys saying that the AJ vs Wilder fight was turned down because there was "no date and no venue", can you please tell us the date and venue for the Wilder vs Fury fight? No??? Then stop being hypocrites. For the last time, neither Wilder nor his team have 50 million dollars so stop saying it. Wilder took the Fury fight because Fury has had 1 fight in the last 3 years and he's very beatable, especially right now after losing so much weight. That's the real reason Wilder took that fight for way less money than the AJ fight. Also, stop saying that the winner of this fight(farce) will be the #1 heavyweight in the world, he won't be and you know it.

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                  • SUBZER0ED
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by bigjavi973
                    and you have seen AJ "destroy" everyone else even KO wlad but somehow seemingly struggled with takam and parker
                    Takam is known to be a rather tough customer and Parker was previously undefeated. And what else...? Oh yeah, Joshua beat them both.

                    Wilder has struggled against Molina and Szpilka & damned near got KO'd by Ortiz, whom many consider to be old. And he beat them all too.

                    So what are we talking about here? Is either fighter perfect? No. Can both fighters fill a 90K seat soccer stadium? No, that type of drawing power belongs to Anthony Joshua ALONE.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by SUBZER0ED
                      You guys have seen Wladimir Klitschko's fights and his opponents. He looked better losing to Joshua than he did in beating some of those "contenders".
                      Yea and those contenders were pretty bad, so maybe just maybe Joshua just isnt that good

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