Wilder is very smart

[Kezzer]

That moment when the wbo ibo and whatever else tries to defend wilder for ducking klitschko again.

We have been through this before but both wilder and his trainer openly admit they ducked him. Why can’t you accept it and need to bring excuses? They have said many times they weren’t ready and didn’t want to take him on.

[daggum]

This is a lie. Klitschko was committed to Jennings before Wilder was even a champion. Then Klitschko owed Fury an overdue mandatory, which would have been difficult to avoid as Fury was simultaneously the WBA and WBO mandatory.

Klitschko and Wilder had the same manager, who said Wilder needed two quick defenses before he'd be ready for Klitschko. So Wilder made two quick defenses before Klitschko even fought Fury. Wilder went public in a major article before the Klitschko/Fury fight calling out Klitschko for a fight in 2016. A fight being planned by Finkel for SHO PPV as soon as Klitschko's HBO deal was up.

Big problem. Klitschko was shockingly upset by Fury, ruining the whole plan.

But your claim that Wilder avoided unification is ridiculous because Klitschko lost all of his titles the same year Wilder won his title.

yes he wasn't ready thus proving the other guys point. its like you type things and don't understand what you are even saying.

[juggernaut666]

He knows he is a very limited fighter

He avoids any unification with Klitschko who was a legend of the game.

He waits his whole career and God knows how many fights before taking on his first real test in Ortiz.

The timing of this was significant as Ortiz had looked trash in his last few fights and had aged badly. He sc****s a win with the help of the ref.

He then avoids Whyte and Joshua for career high pay days. smart move. Whyte then proves he is legit by beating Parker when many thought he would lose.

He decides to take on Fury now. Again brilliant timing. Over two years out after a coke and booze binge and becoming obese. With a new trainer who is an amateur and with 2 warm up fights against roadsweepers.

Wilders fans lap it up.

The guy is a genius at giving himself every advantage.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bl6bWGmH...=1u8tuztdi0eaq

He also changed his mind on Ortiz after his reported age of near 50 came out and coincidentally at the same time frame just happened to claim being generous and put the fight back on after he defeated Stiverne !


But is HE actually smart ? No

It is Finkel who mapped out his career and therefore Wilder makes only 1.4 Million a fight on average after 7 title defenses while Finkel and the rest of the Wilder COMMITEE who he foolishly hired gets to feast on his paydays for annual income as much as Wilder does . lol

[juggernaut666]

Lol .. you linked to an article by Dan Rafael? How desperate do you have to be to do that?

It's well known that Finkel worked with Bernd Boente on setting up Wlad and Vitali's US fights. To a lazy, incompetant oaf like Fat Dan, that probably counts as being the Klit bro's manager .. but not to anybody with a brain in their head. Boente was Wlad and Vitali's manager, not Finkel.

It's also well known that Wlad badly wanted to unify the HW division by winning the WBC belt after his brother vacated it. The Klits bros never negotiated in the media or made public statements about fights they were trying to make. Everything happened quietly, behind the scenes.

The only possible motive that Shelly Finkel could have had for making his infamous statement about Wilder being "still a baby" and "not ready for Wlad" after he won the WBC title was that Boente had approached him - quietly, behind the scenes - to ask about matching Wilder with Wlad, and had been told "no deal"

And leaving the Jennings fight aside - which Wlad himself might possibly have wanted first, before unifying with Wilder - there was absolutely no reason at all why Wilder couldn't have fought Wlad after Wlad beat Jennings.

Your claim that the WBO and WBA wouldn't have delayed their mandos to allow a 4 belt unification fight between Wlad and Wilder is preposterous.

Especially coming from a guy who has claimed - multiple times - that AJ could have ignored the the WBA order to finalise their mando because the IBF are the only organisation who will not always give priority to unification - even after a purse bid has been ordered.

"It's well known that Finkel worked with Bernd Boente on setting up Wlad and Vitali's US fights. "


Finkel was not Klitchkos manager after 2008 he was a semi advisor and Finkel was not even part of the Joshua vs Klitchko fight bc he was frozen out by Hearn on it bc he knew Finkel was bad for negotiating thats why the fight got made easily !

Finkels job with Wilder was to wait until Klitchko retired to get Wilder actual relevant fights which took 40 fights !


Unknown to them Joshua would grab the spot light and now you have Finkel and Co. riding Joshua name making ridiculous demands and halting negotiations by refusal of meetings , really how do you support that , what professional manager claims them as unproductive ?

O.K here we are , Wilder wants 50% and Finkel wants ...... well im not sure what that idiot wants ! I know he doesn't constitute meetings and knows he can trick the masses of ****** boxing fans bc they're ****** !

[kafkod]

yes he wasn't ready thus proving the other guys point. its like you type things and don't understand what you are even saying.

Finkel himself said that Wilder - 29 years old, 33 - 0, WBC champion - wasn't ready for Wlad.

https://www.boxingscene.com/wilder-n...-finkel--86714

Finkel was working with Wlad at that time, as the article says, but he wasn't Wlad's manager, Bernd Boente was.

[kafkod]

"It's well known that Finkel worked with Bernd Boente on setting up Wlad and Vitali's US fights. "


Finkel was not Klitchkos manager after 2008 he was a semi advisor and Finkel was not even part of the Joshua vs Klitchko fight bc he was frozen out by Hearn on it bc he knew Finkel was bad for negotiating thats why the fight got made easily !

Finkels job with Wilder was to wait until Klitchko retired to get Wilder actual relevant fights which took 40 fights !

If Fury looks a lot better against Pianeta than he did against Seferi, the Fury/Wilder negotiations going on between Finkel and Warren will suddenly hit a brick wall and break down.

That's how Wilder and his team operate.

[juggernaut666]

If Fury looks a lot better against Pianeta than he did against Seferi, the Fury/Wilder negotiations going on between Finkel and Warren will suddenly hit a brick wall and break down.

That's how Wilder and his team operate.

So you mean we have day after day of Warren riding Wilders name and vice versa hyping up the proposed fight but Finkel wont sign anything until after he sees what Fury looks like ?

" Were not going to take the Fury fight we want that 15 Million crackhead money bc we care about the fans and want unification" S. Finkel

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After the Fury fight !

[Sable&Whitefish]

Deontay Wilder is a lot of things but smart is not one of them

[Jubei]

As many others pointed out, Finkel himself said Wilder is nowhere ready to face Klitschko, even when Wilder himself was the WBC champion, that tells you everything you need to know about Wilder and his team.

Good post btw, green Karma.

[_Rexy_]

am I the only one who thought Whyte looked bad against the Parker fight?