Comments Thread For: Showtime's Espinoza on Deontay Wilder's Options For The Fall

[rolshans]

Wilder-Whyte would be very interesting.

Wilder is the obvious favourite. But has he ever fought a dirty brawler like Whyte before? Wilder's usually the unorthodox one. It'd be cool to see this play out.

[Corelone]

Whyte fought a higher rated fighter in Parker.
Whyte was keen to fight Ortiz in a final eliminator, the WBC said no, so Whyte asked Wilder if he would keep his promise to fight him if he fought Ortiz (voluntary) ... Wilder said no.

Basically the Wilder fans want Whyte to fight Ortiz with no hope of a Wilder fight with poor money, no one in the uK would give him credit for it as Ortiz looked poor in his uK fights, the US casuals don't care and the US hardcore would just say he got old. Wilder actually said he mess him about as long as possible so he might aw well chase Joshua.

What is it with anybody but AJ fighting Wilder? Whyte was KOd by AJ and almost KO'd by Parker. He'd be a 10 to 1 underdog with a chance of getting dragged out of the ring by his heals. He could sell advertising space on the soles of his shoes. I'd watch just to see Whyte suffer, but I wouldn't pay extra for it.

[kafkod]

I keep hearing Whyte.. but why does he get a pass for ducking Ortiz.. only way he should get a fight with Wildet if he fights Ortiz which was mandated by the WBC..stop giving these dudes a pass who duck fighters... only fights Wilder should be fight is AJ or Fury.. other then that make these fighters fight each other for title shot..this includs AJ as well for sucking..lol i mean ducking

Wilder offered to fight Whyte before, if Hearn would guarantee he gets to fight AJ next. Since Hearn refused, Wilder said then Whyte fight Ortiz, and if he beats him he will fight him. Whyte wants no part of Ortiz for some reason.

Why the double standards, fellas?

Whyte made it clear he would fight Ortiz if it was a final eliminator and he was guaranteed a fight with Wilder next, but the WBC told him no, it would be an eliminator, but not a final eliminator.

If you give Wilder a pass for turning down Whyte unless he was gauranteed AJ next, then you have to do the same for Whyte turning down Ortiz.

[kafkod]

Wilder-Whyte would be very interesting..
Wilder is the obvious favourite. But has he ever fought a dirty brawler like Whyte before? Wilder's usually the unorthodox one. It'd be cool to see this play out.

Wilder wants no part of Dillian Whyte. Hearn is now offering him 4 times his highest purse to fight Dillian in the USA, and he still doesn't want to know.

Whyte is Wilder's No1 contender.

What kind of champion turns down career high money to fight his No1 contender, at home?

A protected paper champion, that's what. And all you fanboys know it..

[kafkod]

"There's been the (Dominic) Breazeale fight, that's sort of been lurking out there for awhile. Tyson Fury seems genuinely interested but Tyson's a little unpredictable at times, to say the least. You've got three depending on what happens tonight, a (Luis) Ortiz rematch."

He's gonna get this.

I'd like to see Wilder fight Dillian Whyte and see how that goes Other than that Fury is a decent option depending on how he looks in his next fight.

Espinoza: "Part of that will be if it's Tyson Fury, who's fighting in August. We'll see how he looks"

And if he looks good they'll avoid him and fight Breazeale.

[NorvernRob]

if he chooses Whyte or Fury after that fight Wilder deserves to get a 50-50 split. Stop trying to cheat a World Champion as 2nd rate got the money pay up sucker !

So if Wilder beats someone Joshua already knocked senseless he then deserves a 50/50 split? Only way he gets 50/50 is if he starts selling the same amount of PPV’s as Joshua. Which isn’t going to happen.

Joshua brings nearly all the belts and nearly all the money to the table. Wilder takes what he’s offered or he keeps fighting for 2 mil whilst Joshua keeps fighting for 15.

[mmamachine]

Wilder wants no part of Dillian Whyte. Hearn is now offering him 4 times his highest purse to fight Dillian in the USA, and he still doesn't want to know.

Whyte is Wilder's No1 contender.

What kind of champion turns down career high money to fight his No1 contender, at home?

A protected paper champion, that's what. And all you fanboys know it..

Exactly.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
All this Whyte ducking Ortiz crap, Whyte has been calling out Wilder for ages and like the post I quoted said he's now being offered 4 x his best purse to fight him in his own country.

Wilder wants no part of Whyte, fact, unless he proves me wrong and fights him next then that's what I believe.

Especially if he fights Brezeale next for another 2 million ffs.

[mmamachine]

Since losing to Joshua Whyte has done really well and improved a lot, if Wilder fought and beat Whyte now his stock would definitely rise in the U.K. meaning he could barter for a better deal against AJ.

Also it rules out AJ and Whyte fighting in April at the same time so it puts Wilder in a much stronger position.

Only reason he doesn't fight him next for 8 million is that he's scared he might lose.

[Ake-Dawg]

Why the double standards, fellas?

Whyte made it clear he would fight Ortiz if it was a final eliminator and he was guaranteed a fight with Wilder next, but the WBC told him no, it would be an eliminator, but not a final eliminator.

If you give Wilder a pass for turning down Whyte unless he was gauranteed AJ next, then you have to do the same for Whyte turning down Ortiz.

I see the point you're trying to make and I wouldn't say Whyte is ducking Ortiz. However, on the surface the situations are similar, but they really aren't parallel situations. Wilder is a champion seeking to unify. The promoter of the other champion offered a voluntary fight aimed only at making the unification more lucrative (or hoping the voluntary fighter upset Wilder). With Whyte, he is seeking to get a title fight. Accordingly he can't necessarily dictate how the belt organizations view or treat him. So for him to turn down the eliminator wasn't him turning down a totally unnecessary risk (all fights are risks), it was a fight he was going to have to fight anyway. He just didn't want to fight Ortiz if Breazeale was going to get a crack at Wilder first.

[Boxingfanatic75]

Luis Ortiz must be pushing 50 now and has never beaten a prime, top contender. He should be made to fight another contender, a Jarrell Miller or Joseph Parker type. Meanwhile, Deontay Wilder should be going for Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua or Dillian Whyte.

Ortiz is 39. I don’t know why people continue to propagate innuendo and flat out lies. Does it make your boxer look better perhaps?