Why did Pacroid request a painkilling injection with no injury??
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So you think a world-renowned surgeon who performs these surgeries for the highest paid athletes and celebrities (and has a long wait list of wealthy clients) is going to jeopardize his license to lie about Pacquiao's shoulder and perform unnecessary surgery just to help him strengthen an alibi?do I have to be a doctor to spot a lie? whats your issue with the thread. what did i post thats incorrect. i posted links for everything.
this is supposedly an injury that dates back to 2009 and we hear nothing of it until Arum mentions it in the Mayweather postfight press conference in 2015. you don't smell the bullsh-t?
why didn't the surgery take place in 2009 after the "jet ski mishap"?
so he was able to beat Clottey, Marquez, Margarito, Bradley, Algieri and Rios with this injury.. so why did it cripple him vs Floyd?
their versions of how it happened changes all the time. do you need to be a doctor to realize that?
If it occurred in round 4 doesn't that mean he was perfectly healthy entering the ring? so why request a powerul painkiller injection?
The same fighter who was just diagnosed with a heart condition a week prior to the Matthysse fight and told he shouldn't fight, that's the guy you think faked a shoulder injury?
The injury was exacerbated in the 4th round. Not all shoulder injuries are alike and not all those who have them will function in the same manner. Why else would be ask for a shot in that shoulder just prior to the fight? Because he wants to numb just that shoulder?
The only sketchy one in that fight was Floyd, who was caught with an illegal IV, so now you Floyd-bots need to deflect his cheating and crappy performance and try to blame Pac. LMAO! Typical.Comment
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You are not a professional who needs his body working at 100% to make a living. Big difference.It is irrelevant how or when the original injury occurred. I played baseball for years with a slight meniscus tear (don't know for sure when it happened) right up until one day when I could not. That is how most athletic injuries are, they go from manageable chronic conditions to unmanageable ones literally overnight or even in an instant.
Pac had his shoulder examined and repaired by the same surgeon who examined and performed surgery on Kobe Bryant and Tom Brady among others. That IS a well documented injury.
Why the desperation? (take 2)
You said injuries go from manageable to unmanageable in an instant... yes that is true, and thats exactly why a professional athelete would NEVER do what Pac did and let the injury go untreated for years.
Anybody with half a brain would tell Pac listen, get surgery now, clean up what needs to be cleaned up, because in the middle of a fight, it will let you down and you will lose this fight because of it, and you dont want to lose a fight over this.Comment
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Hey cumstain. Im not a fanboy. Im simply a fan. I have like 2-3 threads about Floyd's IV so don't come at me with fanboy mess.So you think a world-renowned surgeon who performs these surgeries for the highest paid athletes and celebrities (and has a long wait list of wealthy clients) is going to jeopardize his license to lie about Pacquiao's shoulder and perform unnecessary surgery just to help him strengthen an alibi?
The same fighter who was just diagnosed with a heart condition a week prior to the Matthysse fight and told he shouldn't fight, that's the guy you think faked a shoulder injury?
The injury was exacerbated in the 4th round. Not all shoulder injuries are alike and not all those who have them will function in the same manner. Why else would be ask for a shot in that shoulder just prior to the fight? Because he wants to numb just that shoulder?
The only sketchy one in that fight was Floyd, who was caught with an illegal IV, so now you Floyd-bots need to deflect his cheating and crappy performance and try to blame Pac. LMAO! Typical.
This is about Mannys bogus injury not Floyd's IV. stay on topic.
This is an injury from 2009 in a jet skii accident that Pacroid has been fighting through all these years.. but on May 2nd 2015 his shoulder collapsed??
Provide a link FROM 2009 to confirm the jet skii accident Pacroid said caused this.
I'm posting links to everything im typing. All I'm gettin in replies is diarrhea.
Why is it no boxing fan on earth knew Pacquiao had a jet skii accident in 2009?? not even Filipino media knew of it and they will write articles about literally anything Manny does.
Provide a link FROM 2009.. ill wait
if he was able to fight through it all these years why did it become an issue vs Floyd?? you seriously dont see the bullsh-t in that?
Freddie Roach said there no issue with arm. Neither in training camp or the dressing room.
Their original story was that he was injured in sparring and kept it a secret. this opened them up to perjury lawsuits. so the story changed to he was perfectly healthy goin in and the injury occured in round 4.
There is no evidence to support none of these versions. all you can reply with is diarrhea.
Why no surgery in 2009?
Why no mention of injury to Max Kellerman when Max told him to his face he got humiliated?
Why isn't the story consistent??
Bring facts (sources, links) to prove he was in a jet skii accident in 2009. I'll wait ...Comment
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Lmaoo are u kidding me? the #1 Pound for Pound boxer (2009) in a skii accident is not "relevant"??It is irrelevant how or when the original injury occurred. I played baseball for years with a slight meniscus tear (don't know for sure when it happened) right up until one day when I could not. That is how most athletic injuries are, they go from manageable chronic conditions to unmanageable ones literally overnight or even in an instant.
Pac had his shoulder examined and repaired by the same surgeon who examined and performed surgery on Kobe Bryant and Tom Brady among others. That IS a well documented injury.
Why the desperation? (take 2)
We got proof of Thurmans car accident in a few days.
You provided no link to confirm a jet skii accident.. you lose. cumstain.
and how the fck are you gonna compare yourself to one of the most famous athletes in the world? yet more diarrhea.
I'm giving out links to literally EVERYTHING I'm typing. all youre replying with is diarrhea/your opinions.
1. Pacroid said it was from 2009 and he fought through it all these years.
2. Roach said the arm was a "non issue" in camp and in dressing room. why would he say this? this is already after the fight.
3. If he was injured in sparring and hid it he is guilty of perjury and could've went to jail for 2-4 years. thats why the story changed to he was perfectly healthy and the injury was from round 4.
4. If he was hurt in round 4 why is it he never stopped using the right arm the remainder of the fight? why no mention of it in the corner? literally nothing.
Still waiting on that 2009 link...
MANNY PACQUIAO IN A JET SKII ACCIDENT.. nobody ever hears about it... then you say "it is irrelevant" LMAOO
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Old common boxing knowledge. You're ignorant. Piss offthat's not "common knowledge" d-ckhead.
I provide links for everything.
And I know you're referring to a supposed April 4th, 2015 sparring session correct?
[This is direct quote from Roach on April 13, 2015] trainer Freddie Roach said: "To be honest, 16 rounds of mitts today. I've never seen him hit so hard. He's ready to go."
EXPLAIN THAT YOU CUMSTAIN.
why didn't Roach or Pacroid mention the sparring session after the fight?? THEIR STORY was there was no injury until round 4.
so which is it??
you can pay a sparring partner to say anything. I'm quoting Pacroid and Roach. the two main characters here.
This is a 2009 injury that didn't affect him in any fight until Floyd? your peanut brain ass really buys that?
No more diarrhea from you. Post me a link FROM 2009 detailing Pacroid's jet ski injury?? go ahead. start digging.
Why no surgery in 2009?
if the injury occured in round 4 why did he continue to use his right hand perfectly fine the remainder of the fight?
why no injury story to Max Kellerman postfight??
come on you Pacstain. if you reply you better have some links FROM 2009 detailing the Jet skii accident.
No links and this little debate is over cumstain. Im tired of slapping you idiots upside the head with facts and sources and all I get is diarrhea in return.
BRING LINKS, SOURCES.. or GTFOH.
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No doubt about it. Like Floyd even needed an IV making 147.So you think a world-renowned surgeon who performs these surgeries for the highest paid athletes and celebrities (and has a long wait list of wealthy clients) is going to jeopardize his license to lie about Pacquiao's shoulder and perform unnecessary surgery just to help him strengthen an alibi?
The same fighter who was just diagnosed with a heart condition a week prior to the Matthysse fight and told he shouldn't fight, that's the guy you think faked a shoulder injury?
The injury was exacerbated in the 4th round. Not all shoulder injuries are alike and not all those who have them will function in the same manner. Why else would be ask for a shot in that shoulder just prior to the fight? Because he wants to numb just that shoulder?
The only sketchy one in that fight was Floyd, who was caught with an illegal IV, so now you Floyd-bots need to deflect his cheating and crappy performance and try to blame Pac. LMAO! Typical.
I call BS!Comment
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Lmaooo
https://www.philstar.com/sports/2015...ulous-recovery
I NEVER SAW A DOCTOR!!
EXPLAIN THAT YOU PACSTAINS.
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