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  • Originally posted by KTFOKING View Post
    Never said Ortiz was beatable. But you said Ortiz couldn't KO Allen until the 7th round? I mean that is still something Whyte couldn't do. Allen isn't very good, but he does have a good chin you have to give him that.

    Ortiz definitely didn't look great against a guy who was moving around all fight. But he doesn't have to worry about that against Whyte.

    But yes, HW division is certainly mediocre. Usyk will make it better though.

    But he could floor Parker, which is something AJ couldn’t do. Equally, Ortiz couldn’t take Scott out
    but Chisora could, so it’s all academic.

    You know something, the romantic in me really hopes that a true artist like Usyk can reach the very summit as a HW, but the pragmastist in me tells me that AJ, Wilder, Fury, Miller, Whyte, etc, respectively have too great a reach and too much power.

    Good to talk to a reasonable person round here who will debate properly, i’ll Tell you that much.
    Last edited by P to the J; 07-29-2018, 06:13 AM.

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    • Originally posted by KTFOKING View Post
      Scorecards weren't ridiculous. Parker won at least the 1st, 7th, 10th, 11th and 12th. Then you can argue the 5th round. And obviously we know what happened in the 2nd round. It just seemed like it was all Whyte as he dominated the middle rounds. Big stretch of the fight where Parker didn't do enough.

      And saying two KDs is embarrassing considering it was the head clash that caused the first KD.
      Sure it was a head clash but there is no instant replay & it was scored as a knockdown. I didn’t see Parker winning more than a couple rounds. 118-110 but minus the 3 called KDs between them I had it 117-108. No doubt in my mind if Parker was more aggressive in the middle rounds he could have won this fight. He let Whyte push him around for too many rounds. He showed him too much respect. 2 straight losses will put him at the back of the line for the time being but he has earned nearly 15 million in those fights so it was not all for nothing. He should take a year off & then get back at it. Kevin Barry got him to a world title but is it time for a new trainer? Since Parker moved into the world level he hasn’t exactly looked great. He got a couple razor thin decisions against Takam & Ruiz at home. He was in a couple of stinkers vs Fury & Cojanu. He has now lost back to back fights against Joshua & Whyte. Those wins over Takam & Ruiz could have easily been losses if those fights were outside NZLD. He could have 4 or 5 losses now if you included Fury somehow getting a decision win their snoozefest. He should consider a new team in his corner. I think Barry has got him as far as they are going to go together.
      Last edited by joe strong; 07-29-2018, 06:26 AM.

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      • All I have to say - We can all see why Wilder ducked his biggest payday by far not to fight Whyte the guy is a fraud, boxing will move on without him.

        Wilder dont ever take Whyte fight as we all know you cant beat him you was right to duck him.

        The WBC belt is worth **** with Wilder.

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        • Who cares about AJ -Wilder now, just give us Chisora -Whyte rematch.

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          • Originally posted by P to the J View Post
            But he had the WBC silver belt and was ranked no.1 with the WBC; why on earth should he continue ****ing around with eliminators?

            “Maybe you are one who prefers a Whyte-Joshua rematch...?”

            You know something? I’m about the only person on the planet who doesn’t think a whole lot to the Joshua-Wilder match. I think it’s a major mismatch, I think AJ will more than likely dominate the man and I think he will beat him with ease. The ONLY note of intrigue is whether or not Wilder can land because if he does, it might be night night. But it’s a puncher’s chance and That prospect might be do it for some people, but that isn’t enough to entice me.

            What you must understand about the Whyte-AJ match up is that what it will lack in boxing excellence it will make up for 10 fold in terms of action; neither man likes each other, Whyte is a real nasty piece of work, they have a long standing rivalry and I expect a war, so yeah, stylistically, I prefer the latter all day long.

            As I have said to others, however, this division lacks serious talent.
            So Joshua already dominated Whyte as you predict he would Wilder yet you favor a rematch because it would be a war?

            By the way, the way you described a Whyte Jishua rematch can easily be how a Wilder Joshua fight would be predicted. Difference is Wilder has stamina and punching power to one punch KO anyone in any round. How is that not more intriguing than a rematch of a fight in which one fighter was dominated.

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            • Originally posted by Fabes88 View Post
              Why don’t you use one of those brain cells to think about why a man who’s currently Wbc silver champion, was number 1 in their rankings and fought several eliminators would be aggreived that someone below him in the rankings was made the mandatory. I’m not surprised he went on a different, more lucrative direction.
              It has been already explained a lot of times, pay attention. I'll give you one last chance to understand. Breazeale was going to fight Stiverne for the mandatory position. When Stiverne went on to fight Wilder, Breazeale got the position by default. Anyway, what's the problem in being the second if you have a guaranteed shot? Just weak excuses

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              • Originally posted by BoxHec View Post
                The only ones who overrated Parker are people like you (certainly because of the WBO belt), I'm a big fan of Parker but I always said that he has zero chance against Wilder, Ortiz, Joshua, & Povetkin, his fight vs Andy Ruiz was the ultimate proof, and so all his title fights after, and I was thinking that he will be in trouble against Whyte, Chisora and any top-15, but is Parker can beat Whyte & Chisora? probably (because of their stamina) but he has a lot of work to do for that, he need to be stronger mentally, more smart, more vicious, more concentrated and more hungry, and his sparring partners are probably here to not hurt him during training camps.. and polynesians are emotional so not a good idea for him to bring his family to his fights, when against a tough opponent he probably fears to be ko'ed in front of his mother.. and the fact that he was happy at the end of the fight because of the last minute of that fight is another proof that he's not mature enough to understand his flaws
                Fast to judge on things you don't know, huh? If you saw my posts you would know I expected him to lose the last two fights and had him arguably losing to Ruiz

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                • Originally posted by Just looking View Post
                  It has been already explained a lot of times, pay attention. I'll give you one last chance to understand. Breazeale was going to fight Stiverne for the mandatory position. When Stiverne went on to fight Wilder, Breazeale got the position by default. Anyway, what's the problem in being the second if you have a guaranteed shot? Just weak excuses
                  So you don’t understand why the person in the number one position would be pissed by that decision after spending thousands on sanctioning fees?bear in mind Breazeale hasn’t done the same. I’d probably tell the wbc to stick it too. I can definitely understand why he went in a different and probably more lucrative direction. I’m sure you would too if you could see past your agenda

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                  • Originally posted by Vinnykin View Post
                    The first round is a feeler round that Parker won just, he didn't land any significant punches..... Whyte was warming up.

                    Whyte done serious damage to Parker even in the round with the disputed head KD, it was at the end of a combination, and I honestly thought it was a legit KD at the time, it was only after on the slow-mo I seen it. Clear Whyte round though.

                    Parker did not win the 10th at all, clear Whyte round with Parker hitting gloves.

                    Look at how many body shots Whyte blocked, you can't score them.

                    Whyte landed way more than Parker over the 12 rounds, the last 2 rounds Parker came back but didn't land anything significant.

                    With the 2 kd's and Whyte clearly winning 8 rounds, 115-110 Whyte, with Whyte landing way more punches in the rounds he did win, and Parker winning a couple of his 4 rounds.... just!
                    Round 2 was a clear Whyte round? No way, you need to go re-watch it. That was a Parker round easily.

                    Round 10 was close I will give you that, but Parker certainly has a case for. A lot of people gave it to Whyte.

                    So yeah, the cards weren't ridiculous at all.

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                    • Originally posted by Fabes88 View Post
                      There was a punch as well so I’m pretty sure it’s a legal knockdown. Parker’s promoter didn’t even have a problem with it.
                      His promoter said in his interview something like it was hard to see initially but looked like the heads may have caused it. I mean it was clear as day after seeing the replay it was the head clash that came before the punch.

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