Originally posted by mlac
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Luis Ortiz vs Joe Joyce
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I think Ortiz gets him out of there, honestly, and if not he makes Joyce look bad. Joyce looks like he's fighting underwater, he throws punches in slow motion and Ortiz (in spite of his age) has great movement, power, and speed. I can't imagine Joyce wants this fight.
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At this stage I have to go with Ortiz. I think Ortiz is still somewhat unproven having only beaten Kauffman, Scott, Jennings, Cojanu & ancient Tony Thompson with Jennings his best win. I only mention Cojanu because he got a Parker title shot & went 12 rounds. Joyce is 7-0 with 3 wins over cans, 2 wins over British level fighters & 2 wins over journeymen. It's a big step going from Kiladze & Hanks to a top 5 HW in Ortiz. Joyce is ranked as Boxingrec #35 so he is moving up but Joyce hasn't beat anyone in the top 100 let alone a top 5 HW. Kiladze #184, Thomas #171 & Hanks #154. It is very hard for me to back Joyce to win at this stage. I'd like to see how he fairs against Kauffman or Kevin Johnson. Hell put him in there with the come backing Arreola.
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Originally posted by juggernaut666 View PostWould Ortiz risk losing and not getting another title shot when far easier guys are out there .
These two are of only 4 top guys that can and do dominate an entire fight the others are Miller and Joshua .
This would be a war and i think Joyce may tire Ortiz out by mid rounds or get caught and lose .
I would probably take an improving Joyce vs a guy whos eventually not going to show up nearing 50 .
I do have Ortiz ranked at 3 but this will probably change with guys like Joyce on the rise .
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