Reasons for the AJ vs Wilder split

[Tyistall]

Wow, and there you go. I guess all you Wilder fans who believe the 50 million is real, you are all victims of Nigerian mail fraud too hahahahaha. This fight is not worth 100 million, no matter what Wilder or his deluded fans say. Also, AJ owns the IBO, IBF, WBA and WBO belts so yes, he does have 4 belts. For you idiots who are saying that the fight should happen in the US, have you watched the AJ fights in the UK lately? His next two fights will be in front of 180,000 people while Wilder fights again in front of about 10k per fight. 4 belts to 1 should give Wilder a % of about 20%. Especially if he has never even been on PPV. Parker got a % based on the fact that he had one belt to AJ's two (really 2 but they didn't want to count the IBO). So if we go by the same math it should be Wilder getting 25% because AJ has another belt.

[koolkc107]

Let assume Wilder vs Joshua does better than any fight AJ has had on Sky...say 1.8M buys.
That's over 50M dollars gross right there.

Now, let's be conservative and say that because it is in Britain, the American PPV comes in at about 500K.
That's another 35M.

The gate at Wembley would be 8 to 10M.

Throw in sponsorships and foreign TV rights and you get very close to a 100M gross even in Britain.

Now, throw in the 40M Vegas would ante up if the fight was held there and throw in (conservatively) 200K more American PPV buys since it will be in prime time. Add another 15M because the Vegas gate is going to be at least that much more than Wembley.

Starting to get the picture now, Holmes?

Your problem is, instead of thinking for yourself and comparing what we know past and lesser fights have done and projecting what this one might do, you have simply accepted Hearn's party line that this isnt a 100M fight.

But, it is and then some.

Even in Britain.

[Kezzer]

It's amazing, the myopia some Joshua fans have.

Yes, Wilder accepted the lowball 15M...on the condition that he be NEXT!

He signed to fight in the Fall of 2018, not the Spring of 2019.

Well, AJ aint fighting Wilder next, so that offer is now moot. It is a non-issue.

A new offer must be given or the old offers still on the table (and that includes the 50M) must be accepted for the new dates.

The fight is a 100M fight in Vegas but for some reason AJ doesn't want to fight Wilder there.

Wilder signed? When did this happen? If wilder signed the fight would be happening right now!

[koolkc107]

Wilder signed? When did this happen? If wilder signed the fight would be happening right now!

If Hearn would have got a contract to Wilder in a day or two instead of almost 2 weeks, the fight might be happening now

If Hearn would have answered Finkel right away about the issues they had with the contract that was finally sent instead of taking a week to respond, the fight might be happening right now.

The things left out were venue and date, which is clear indication Hearnn didn't want Wilder next, even while fooling all of you into thinking they did...

Here's exactly what Wilder said when he accepted the lowball:

Wilder posted last night: ‘The $50M offer for Joshua to fight me next in the US is still available to him if he wants it.

'In addition to that, today I agreed to their offer to fight Joshua next in the U.K. If Joshua prefers the fight in the UK. the ball is in their court. It’s up to them to choose US or UK. I’m in.’

Wilder manager Shelley Finkel separately indicated to World Boxing News last night that October is an option as well as September, which would go some way to quell one of Hearn’s concerns about a September date clashing with Canelo Alvarez’s return from a drugs suspension.

Finkel claimed Wilder had agreed to a rematch clause.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/box...-showdown.html

See that word "next", Holmes?

That's why they accepted the bullshyt money...to be next.

When it didn't happen, the whole thing is back to square one.

[juggernaut666]

Wilder signed? When did this happen? If wilder signed the fight would be happening right now!

The Wilder fan girls simply dont want the fight ...look at the absolutely ******ed post above . lol

[Zaryu]

"I know a lot of you guys like to debate stupid stuff and not deal with facts. But, I'd like to argue the facts for once... the $50million offer was not real..." LOL!

[Kezzer]

Well you will be glad to know that today Hearn has confirmed that the contract has been signed by Joshua and himself for April date with the value agreed, including the two minor contract changes requested from finkel.

So there ya have it. We will know soon enough if the offer wilder already accepted is something he really wanted or not.

[Sid-Knee]

Wilder doubles Joshua in US tv ratings.

The US is were all the sponsorship money is.

Match. Set. Point.

What sponsorships?

Why is Wilder fighting for 1.5 mill then? Joshua makes huge money. Wilder makes peanuts in comparison.

[Sid-Knee]

Let assume Wilder vs Joshua does better than any fight AJ has had on Sky...say 1.8M buys.
That's over 50M dollars gross right there.

Now, let's be conservative and say that because it is in Britain, the American PPV comes in at about 500K.
That's another 35M.

The gate at Wembley would be 8 to 10M.

Throw in sponsorships and foreign TV rights and you get very close to a 100M gross even in Britain.

Now, throw in the 40M Vegas would ante up if the fight was held there and throw in (conservatively) 200K more American PPV buys since it will be in prime time. Add another 15M because the Vegas gate is going to be at least that much more than Wembley.

Starting to get the picture now, Holmes?

Your problem is, instead of thinking for yourself and comparing what we know past and lesser fights have done and projecting what this one might do, you have simply accepted Hearn's party line that this isnt a 100M fight.

But, it is and then some.

Even in Britain.

You know people get their cut from the PPV money don't you? The fighters don't just take it all home. The TV company takes half.

Jesus.

[koolkc107]

You know people get their cut from the PPV money don't you? The fighters don't just take it all home. The TV company takes half.

Jesus.

Careful.

Your fanboy myopia has you missing words and meaning...