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  • Shape up
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    #181
    Originally posted by travestyny
    YOU ARE AN ABSOLUTE IDIOT. SO THE IV ACTUALLY CONCENTRATES THE URINE MORE THAN DRINKING WATER.......?


    YOU ARE BRAINDEAD. HOW THE FVVCK CAN THE SPECIFIC GRAVITY OF A SAMPLE BE DIFFERENT BASED UPON WHETHER AN IV WAS GIVEN OR WATER WAS GIVEN. THE SPECIFIC GRAVITY OF A SAMPLE IS THE SPECIFIC GRAVITY YOU COMPLETE IMBECILE.

    JESUS CHRIST YOU'RE A MORON. HOW ABOUT A WORD FROM USADA ON WHICH WOULD PRODUCE A MORE DILUTED SAMPLE.




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    • The plunger man
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      #182
      Originally posted by koolkc107
      September 17, 2015

      On September 9, 2015, SB Nation posted an article written by Mr. Thomas Hauser that contained no less than 40 inaccurate facts and misleading statements, as well as quotes from un-named, un-informed or self-interested sources about USADA and our role in anti-doping in the sport of professional boxing.

      In order to provide truthful and accurate facts, and to stop the perpetuation of further rumors, speculation and false information, USADA has provided a detailed 25 page fact correction of the full article which can be found HERE. We have also included a brief overview of some of the most egregious inaccuracies below.



      In regards to Mr. Mayweather’s The****utic Use Exemption (TUE):

      The article makes several inaccurate statements about Mr. Mayweather’s TUE. Mr. Mayweather applied for and was granted a The****utic Use Exemption (TUE) by USADA for an IV infusion of saline and vitamins that was administered prior to his May 2, 2015, fight against Manny Pacquiao. Under the WADA Code, if an athlete has a need to use a prohibited method or substance, they may apply for and be granted a TUE. Having an approved TUE means that the athlete is not in violation of the anti-doping rules.

      Contrary to Mr. Hauser’s inaccurate reports, the USADA DCO was in the home and observed Mr. Mayweather’s condition that precipitated the need for an IV. The DCO was also in the home when the paramedic was called and remained in the home while the paramedic provided the IV. At no point during the infusion did Mr. Mayweather attempt to hide anything regarding the treatment he was receiving.

      Mr. Mayweather’s use of the IV was not prohibited under the NSAC rules at that time and would not be a violation of the NSAC rules today. In fact, it is a common practice among athletes licensed to fight in Nevada. As such, it is illogical to suggest that Mr. Mayweather had an obligation to apply to NSAC for a TUE for a procedure that is not prohibited or otherwise monitored by them. Nonetheless, because Mr. Mayweather was voluntarily taking part in a USADA program, and therefore subject to the rules of the World Anti-Doping Code, he took the additional step of applying for a TUE after the IV infusion was administered in order to remain in compliance with the USADA program.

      Furthermore, the prompt reporting of the TUE after its approval was in accordance with the terms of the testing agreement that was signed by both athletes. The NSAC was provided with the testing agreement and expressly advised of the procedure USADA would utilize to review, approve and report TUEs via email on April 6, 2015. In accordance with the agreement both Mr. Pacquiao and the NSAC were notified of the IV in May as soon as a TUE was approved.



      As Mr. Bennett from the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC) said on September 12th:

      “Mr. Mayweather has done nothing wrong. The Nevada State Athletic Commission has no interest in any type of investigation regarding his IV. He did not violate the WADA Prohibited List for any type of drugs that are prohibited on that list, and we have no interest in it whatsoever.”



      In regards to Carbon Isotope Ratio (CIR) testing:

      Contrary to Mr. Hauser’s unsubstantiated claims that USADA does not utilize CIR testing on the basis that it is “unnecessary and too expensive,” USADA absolutely conducts CIR testing as part of our professional boxing testing programs. For instance, CIR testing was conducted on all 22 urine samples collected from both Mr. Mayweather and Mr. Pacquiao during the testing program in advance of their May 2, 2015 fight.

      USADA maintains, however that focusing only on CIR testing is not up to current scientific practices. USADA also utilizes the Athlete Biological Passport (ABP) to longitudinally monitor an athlete’s urine and blood profiles, which allows us to look for any minor or major fluctuations in an athlete’s blood and steroid values, including fluctuations in their T/E ratio. If there were to be any fluctuations, they could lead to additional targeted testing. In addition, USADA’s professional boxing testing programs include testing for EPO, hGH and peptide hormones.
      You keep quoting the story from usada so of course they are going to deny and try and sweep it under the carpet.
      Under no circumstances should an i.v be used except in a certified surgery or medical unit and under no circumstances must a dose of 750ml be given.
      If it was false why was thomas hauser not sued by usada and floyd mayweather for libel ? Because he was guilty of breaching rules

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        #183
        Originally posted by The plunger man
        You keep quoting the story from usada so of course they are going to deny and try and sweep it under the carpet.
        Under no circumstances should an i.v be used except in a certified surgery or medical unit and under no circumstances must a dose of 750ml be given.
        If it was false why was thomas hauser not sued by usada and floyd mayweather for libel ? Because he was guilty of breaching rules
        Youre an idiot , 750 ml of IV fluids is nothing as Ive said a million times a 60lb Greyhound is given more than that for dehydration, Ive had 3mth old pups given more than that.

        Go and look at the doses of IV fluids before you make ridicules baseless claims.

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          #184
          Originally posted by Shape up
          If you don't understand how the body works then just say so, we will only laugh at you like we normally do
          Apparently you don't know how the body works. You got embarrassed. Don't write to me again unless it's to state you were wrong and admit you're an idiot. Thanks.

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            #185
            Originally posted by travestyny
            So were you when you tried to explain how Floyd purposely cheats as much as possible over years to perpetuatally keep his blood values at a stable cheating state to pass the ABP. Lol.
            By now, I would have thought you would have realized all of this and just not bring this up. Seems like you are still not understanding any of this.

            This has been going on by athletes for a while.

            For example, there were some blood test thresholds for EPO even prior to WADA's official ABP methodology for EPO testing .


            The athletes would try to keep their HT below the threshold so that they would be able to participate in the events. So they would have it at lets say a score of 49 even though their true HT value was something like 42! Articles would say, Athlete so and so has a naturally high HT but the truth is that some were artificially high!!!


            There was that guy from that BBC article that was a rookie (first timer) and had LABs verify and he managed to trick them too. A rookie!

            That was my point. ABP can be defeated. It's helpful, for sure but it does NOT stop people from abusing with PEDs, right?


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              #186
              Originally posted by Dr.Cool
              An employee of hbo, Thomas Hauser, wrote a largely fictional story and put it out the day before Mayweather fought Berto. He alleged that USADA showed up unannounced the night before the Floyd-Pac fight and found Mayweather receiving an illegal IV.
              However, USADA came out the next day and corrected him. According to USADA, Floyd called them, complaining of dehydration. That USADA officials went to Mayweather's residence, at Mayweather's request, and indeed diagnosed Floyd as being dehydrated. USADA immediately gave Floyd a theruaperutic use exemption. USADA officials checked the IV the bags, everything. USADA officials stayed and ensured everything done was legal and performed by the book.

              Hauser replied to USADA, but has never once denied that he made up USADA showing up unannounced, that USADA gave him the TUE that night, and that everything was done by the book. His main rebuttal to USADA's correction was that USADA should have just given him a glass of water.

              Here is the 25 pages of USADA correcting Hauser's lies. Keep in mind, Hauser was paid for this by hbo, who lost untold millions when Floyd left them and signed with Showtime.



              Yet, the conspiracy goes that USADA showed up unannounced and caught Floyd cheating and then tried to cover it up. First, why would USADA even make an unannounced visit if they were intent on covering up anything anyway?? They went out there to see if they could find something they needed to cover up?

              Second, USADA gets its funding through the U.S. government and would immediately go out of business if found of lying and covering up illegal ped use.

              Third, USADA busted American heroes Lance Armstrong and recently Michael Phelps, but they risked their very business to cover up for Floyd Mayweather who 99% of people despise?

              Fourth, why has Hauser never once stuck up for his original claims? He was accused of lying, and he never denied it. Why?

              Fifth, how would Hauser even find this out? So, USADA went to try and catch Floyd doing something illegal, caught him red-handed, then covered it all up, and finally called an employee of hbo to tell him all of this???

              Floyd Mayweather may well of used peds at various points throughout his career. But the conspiracy of USADA going and catching Floyd with an illegal IV and covering it all up, makes no sense at all. There are reasons to suspect Floyd of PED use, but defending something in an article, that the author of that article refuses to defend is not one of them.


              Again, the 25 pages of lies and USADA's corrections:

              https://www.usada.org/wp-content/upl...Tom-Hauser.pdf
              USADA hid failed tests for Flroid, allowed him to use an illegal IV, gave him a TUE.

              Case closed.

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              • Shape up
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                #187
                Originally posted by travestyny
                Apparently you don't know how the body works. You got embarrassed. Don't write to me again unless it's to state you were wrong and admit you're an idiot. Thanks.
                If you cant comprehend that drinking water will dilute urine more than an IV will dilute urine then your a very uneducated individual, thats what anyone with a brain understands

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                  #188
                  Originally posted by ADP02
                  By now, I would have thought you would have realized all of this and just not bring this up. Seems like you are still not understanding any of this.

                  This has been going on by athletes for a while.

                  For example, there were some blood test thresholds for EPO even prior to WADA's official ABP methodology for EPO testing .


                  The athletes would try to keep their HT below the threshold so that they would be able to participate in the events. So they would have it at lets say a score of 49 even though their true HT value was something like 42! Articles would say, Athlete so and so has a naturally high HT but the truth is that some were artificially high!!!


                  There was that guy from that BBC article that was a rookie (first timer) and had LABs verify and he managed to trick them too. A rookie!

                  That was my point. ABP can be defeated. It's helpful, for sure but it does NOT stop people from abusing with PEDs, right?


                  .
                  You’re an idiot if you think to pass a drug test while juicing, the key is to take PEDs as much as possible. Go fetch my points and stop quoting me.

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                    #189
                    Originally posted by Shape up
                    If you cant comprehend that drinking water will dilute urine more than an IV will dilute urine then your a very uneducated individual, thats what anyone with a brain understands
                    I guess you didn’t read my last post from USADA.

                    You got embarrassed, just like I told you that you would. Fvvck off you brain dead moron. Thanks.

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                      #190
                      Originally posted by travestyny
                      Apparently you don't know how the body works. You got embarrassed. Don't write to me again unless it's to state you were wrong and admit you're an idiot. Thanks.
                      Originally posted by ADP02
                      By now, I would have thought you would have realized all of this and just not bring this up. Seems like you are still not understanding any of this.

                      This has been going on by athletes for a while.

                      For example, there were some blood test thresholds for EPO even prior to WADA's official ABP methodology for EPO testing .


                      The athletes would try to keep their HT below the threshold so that they would be able to participate in the events. So they would have it at lets say a score of 49 even though their true HT value was something like 42! Articles would say, Athlete so and so has a naturally high HT but the truth is that some were artificially high!!!


                      There was that guy from that BBC article that was a rookie (first timer) and had LABs verify and he managed to trick them too. A rookie!

                      That was my point. ABP can be defeated. It's helpful, for sure but it does NOT stop people from abusing with PEDs, right?


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                      Originally posted by travestyny
                      You’re an idiot if you think to pass a drug test while juicing, the key is to take PEDs as much as possible. Go fetch my points and stop quoting me.


                      Travestyny is Lost in SPACE!!!


                      I gave you an example where the athlete would keep their HT levels at just below the threshold level even though their true HT value was much lower. This was not an isolated case!!!!

                      There is also other ways that this happens.

                      The athlete may have a HT of 45 but when you train hard, it may come down due to the daily heavy workouts. Well, the athlete can use PEDs to keep it at around 45 even though it would be lower without the PEDs!

                      It shows that you know NOTHING!!!


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