Why did Jennings perform so much better vs Wlad than Pedvetkin?

[Sid-Knee]

Jennings' group is related to Huck's group as all the best Cruisers moved up lol, you can't call HW trash and try to prop up cruiser when all the best cruisers are at heavy and losing!


Haye, Adamek, Mormeck, Cunningham (already beat Huck) all moved to HW and lost badly to top HWs. Jennings literally beat the guy that beat former #1 guy at cruiser Adamek, Szpilka.


Let me get this straight:
-Pedvetkin is taken seriously after losing in a shut out to Wlad.
-Jennings is dismissed after taking Wlad to a competitive UD.

-Jennings beats undefeated Szpilka & Perez=nobodies
-Pedvetkin beats Perez AFTER Jennings=Great win

-Szpilka beats the former #1 guy at cruiser ahead of Huck=trash

This makes no sense at all. None.

What are you talking about, I never said Heavyweight was trash? You're now creating things in your head like you've done in this whole thread. You're putting words in people's mouth when they said nothing of the sort.

You think Spilka beating a shot to pieces Adamak has some kind of value? Oh dear, you're stretching all the way to nutterville. The poster I mistook you for was also a complete nutter, his name was Mr Objectivity. So it was an easy mistake on my part.

You're judged by your whole package of work, not by how you do against Wladimir. As I say, if you did that you could make a claim for pretty much every fighter that has existed. I did that in my first post so i'm not going to do it again because it's obvious it would be a waste of my time.

Nobody said Perez was a great win for Povetkin. You're putting words in my mouth again by creating **** in your head. You should see someone about that. It's a nasty habit you have there.

I suppose things that are based in reality wouldn't make sense to someone like you. So i'll leave you to it.

Wow.

[uppercut510]

Jennings has a decent jab and moves his head pretty good. most posters wont give him props because Ortiz beat him. but in another breath dillian whyte is an elite fighter.

[Jewish-Reptile]

Yet people regard Pedvetkin as the much better fighter while Jennings gets laughed off as some sort of bum?

I never really understood it at all. The "he was old" excuse doesn't fly because it was barely 1.5 years apart & he just dominated Pulev (another guy people rank higher than Jennings)

Scorecards for Pedvetkin-Wlad:
119-104
119'104
119-104

Dropped what, 3-4 times?


Cards for Jennings-Wlad
118-109
116-111
116-111

0 knock downs.

Really scratching my head at this one, oh and Pulev being regarded as a better fighter too despite his fight with Wlad ending in 5

Age is a major factor as evidenced the previous year with Wlad’s poor showing against Pulev, really by the time he fought Jennings he was looking to face Wilder and retire he’d stalled negotiations as long as he could attempting to entice Wilder into a fight it’s all documented.

[Cutthroat]

What are you talking about, I never said Heavyweight was trash? You're now creating things in your head like you've done in this whole thread. You're putting words in people's mouth when they said nothing of the sort.

You think Spilka beating a shot to pieces Adamak has some kind of value? Oh dear, you're stretching all the way to nutterville. The poster I mistook you for was also a complete nutter, his name was Mr Objectivity. So it was an easy mistake on my part.

You're judged by your whole package of work, not by how you do against Wladimir. As I say, if you did that you could make a claim for pretty much every fighter that has existed. I did that in my first post so i'm not going to do it again because it's obvious it would be a waste of my time.

Nobody said Perez was a great win for Povetkin. You're putting words in my mouth again by creating **** in your head. You should see someone about that. It's a nasty habit you have there.

I suppose things that are based in reality wouldn't make sense to someone like you. So i'll leave you to it.

Wow.

Adamek was not shot to pieces, in Dec 2012 he picked up a win over the #2 ranked guy at cruiser Steve Cunningham ranked ahead of Huck. Szpilka beat him a little over a year later

Perez/Takam are literally Pedvetkin's best wins in the past 10 years or so of his career after that you're looking at guys like Chagaev back in 2011, before than Chambers in 2008. Now that is reaching. The rest of Pedvetkin's resume is littered with guys floating in the 15-30th range of the division.

[Cutthroat]

Age is a major factor as evidenced the previous year with Wlad’s poor showing against Pulev, really by the time he fought Jennings he was looking to face Wilder and retire he’d stalled negotiations as long as he could attempting to entice Wilder into a fight it’s all documented.

Wlad KO'd Pulev in 5, it was a shut out on all 3 scorecards, I mean it doesn't get much better than that. That was a great performance.

A poor performance is something like Peter in 2005 when Wlad was 29. Wlad aged like wine.

[Jewish-Reptile]

Wlad KO'd Pulev in 5, it was a shut out on all 3 scorecards, I mean it doesn't get much better than that. That was a great performance.

A poor performance is something like Peter in 2005 when Wlad was 29. Wlad aged like wine.

His reflexes and footwork evidently were not as sharp. Pulev made himself accountable by standing in front of Wlad, he says himself he attempting to go toe to toe big mistake if he’d have made Wladimir follow him he’d have caused problems due to the aged champ lacking a step even the opening round Pulev beats Wlad to the jab the reflexes and footwork have diminished from the earlier prime years 2009-2011.

[KingHippo]

Because Povetkin is garbage. All he has going for him is a Russian last name, biggest hypejob fraud at heavyweight in my opinion.

[juggernaut666]

Because Povetkin is garbage. All he has going for him is a Russian last name, biggest hypejob fraud at heavyweight in my opinion.

......:gay:

[Sid-Knee]

Adamek was not shot to pieces, in Dec 2012 he picked up a win over the #2 ranked guy at cruiser Steve Cunningham ranked ahead of Huck. Szpilka beat him a little over a year later

Perez/Takam are literally Pedvetkin's best wins in the past 10 years or so of his career after that you're looking at guys like Chagaev back in 2011, before than Chambers in 2008. Now that is reaching. The rest of Pedvetkin's resume is littered with guys floating in the 15-30th range of the division.

1) The win over Cunningham was a robbery. Most had Cunningham winning, as did I. 2) Cunningham wasn't the number 2 Cruiserweight because he wasn't even fighting at that weight any more. It was done at Heavyweight. 3) Yes, Adamek was shot when Spilka fought him. Trying to dispute that is crazy. And I can see you're very crazy.

Chambers, Chagiev and Takam are better victories than Perez. But that's not the argument here. You're saying I consider it a great victory for Povetkin but not for Jennings when I said nothing of the sort. That was created in your head. At best, you could say it was decent for both of them. But Povetkin clearly put on the superior performance. So Povetkin comes out on top with that one, which actually contradicts your point because you're claiming Jennings is either on the same level or better than Povetkin based on their performances against Wlad. Well, here he is performing a lot better than Jennings against Perez. So your argument goes up in smoke.

[Sid-Knee]

Because Povetkin is garbage. All he has going for him is a Russian last name, biggest hypejob fraud at heavyweight in my opinion.

And yet he's achieved a lot more than Ortiz amateur and pro. So if he's a hype-job, then Ortiz is nothing but a homeless bum.