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  • allen23
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    #41
    Originally posted by juggernaut666
    Thats the problem you say Usyk will get pummeled , yet you answer with a Wilder K.O ratio but fail to mention he struggled in almost all those title fights , yet im to believe he PUMMELS Usyk who wont win rnds even though far less skilled guys have ?


    Usyk also has 11 stoppages in 15 fights ,im pretty sure he wasn't pummling them though .
    mate youre making no sense at all. i was the first one to state usyk will win rounds against anyone but are u seriously saying that he will avoid wilders power for 12 rounds? yes wilder has struggled against numerous fighters but he has freakish speed and power that gets him through hence why i cant see usyk lasting 12 rounds dodging his unorthodox shot selection. joshua however will gas out which would be a bad situation considering how well usyk moves. this is not a joshua vs wilder thing i just feel that wilder would handle usyk a lot better over 12 rounds and his chances increase as the fight goes on unlike joshua

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    • Bronx2245
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      #42
      Originally posted by Butch.McRae
      Holyfield was on gas people lol Come on. We have to live in reality on that issue.

      Tyson was just gifted with power and tenacity. That's not Usyk at all.
      Usyk is 6'3" fam! He should be able to make 230 easy, and not lose much speed at all! What was Usyk and Gassiev weighing on fight night? Gassiev is 6'4"! He should have no problem moving up either! Wilder beat Ortiz at 215lbs.!

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        #43
        Originally posted by allen23
        mate youre making no sense at all. i was the first one to state usyk will win rounds against anyone but are u seriously saying that he will avoid wilders power for 12 rounds? yes wilder has struggled against numerous fighters but he has freakish speed and power that gets him through hence why i cant see usyk lasting 12 rounds dodging his unorthodox shot selection. joshua however will gas out which would be a bad situation considering how well usyk moves. this is not a joshua vs wilder thing i just feel that wilder would handle usyk a lot better over 12 rounds and his chances increase as the fight goes on unlike joshua
        A very practical post here. Some of these guys just post fantasy **** lol

        I love what I've seen from Usyk but Wilder with that reach and shot selection (or lack thereof) would be a lot to overcome.

        How many times do we have to see him find a way to KO somebody before we just accept that his power is true? Lol

        Everybody is sitting back in denial but we're not the fighters in there with him. It's clearly not easy to make it to the final bell with him. But for some reason people here assume a CW could do it.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Bronx2245
          Usyk is 6'3" fam! He should be able to make 230 easy, and not lose much speed at all! What was Usyk and Gassiev weighing on fight night? Gassiev is 6'4"! He should have no problem moving up either! Wilder beat Ortiz at 215lbs.!
          Serious question: You actually think what you saw from Usyk would be enough to make it 12 with Wilder?

          I think he could find a way with AJ. I don't see it with Wilder.

          Btw putting on 20-30lbs is a lot for a 31 year old lol

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            #45
            Haha! Tony gettin called out. Let's see what motormouth says now. If, buts, maybes... Anyway, Usyk has already fought at heavyweight in the WSB. I remember him fighting Joe Joyce.

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              #46
              Originally posted by VatoMulatto
              That's not always the case. Roy never wanted to fight any of the big heavyweights like Lennox Lewis. There's a reason he wanted Ruiz. Roy always said he would only move up to HW if the "right" HW was there. Ruiz was a small HW with a belt so he took the chance. Lewis would've been way too big.
              True and not only was Ruiz small, he was crap too

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                #47
                Originally posted by Butch.McRae
                A very practical post here. Some of these guys just post fantasy **** lol

                I love what I've seen from Usyk but Wilder with that reach and shot selection (or lack thereof) would be a lot to overcome.

                How many times do we have to see him find a way to KO somebody before we just accept that his power is true? Lol

                Everybody is sitting back in denial but we're not the fighters in there with him. It's clearly not easy to make it to the final bell with him. But for some reason people here assume a CW could do it.
                rationality and objectiveness are not traits common on boxingscene threads. At heavyweight Wilder is the truth and until someone beats him and can withstand his power then i find it hard to see anyone beating him. his power is like having a cheat code in a computer game! nobody else would get away with being so technically sloppy but then again nobody else carries the equaliser just like he does

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                • Boxingfanatic75
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by rudy
                  if a 40 year old can drop him, i am sure Usyk can he has beaten joe Joyce in the amateurs so can compete with the big boys
                  Ummm no he has no HW power so not a single HW will worry the least bit about what comes their way. Extremely talented yes but the HW division up and down will maul this guy. Also sorry to have to educate you he is 39 not 40 and in addition every HW avoided him like the plague
                  Last edited by Boxingfanatic75; 07-23-2018, 07:08 AM.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by allen23
                    over 12 rounds i cant see it being a struggle. usyk will win rounds off any heavyweight but wilder has the speed and power to pummel him into tomorrow and he surely would. any other heavyweight struggles to win against usyk including joshua
                    We have Wilder’s cousin posting. How are you bro?

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by scarybodyshot
                      Usyk will struggle at heavyweight. I do hope though that he gets a shot at Bellew and sends him into retirement.

                      Usyk won't be able to hang with the top heavyweights like AJ, Povetkin, Miller, Takem, Chisora, Fury, Brezeale... Be interesting to see how he does against a C level heavyweight like David Price, Wilder or Stiverne or Molina.
                      Lol enough with this A B C level garbage. If the fans in the UK wish to make sub par HWs what you consider “A” level (millionaires) by shelling out the dough by watching sub par fighters that’s your business and as Barnum said there’s a sucker born every minute. However ABC has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with whether someone can “hang” with a HW so enough of this ABC bulls!te. The guy is talented but would get MAULED in HW division

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