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  • juggernaut666
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    #31
    Originally posted by Andrij
    Also Usyk will go straight after Top 10HWs when he moves up. He will not waste time fighting prospects or mediocre Top 15-20 fighters. IMO after Bellew he will face someone like Whyte,Parker,Miller or Breazeale.
    It wont shock me one bit if he gets a Joshua fight right away !

    I would advise him to do that bc of everything stated bc Usyk could lose to any top HW why chance it .

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      #32
      Originally posted by allen23
      over 12 rounds i cant see it being a struggle. usyk will win rounds off any heavyweight but wilder has the speed and power to pummel him into tomorrow and he surely would. any other heavyweight struggles to win against usyk including joshua
      Who has Wilder pummeled in title fights outside inactive Stiverne ?

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      • Andrij
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        #33
        Originally posted by juggernaut666
        It wont shock me one bit if he gets a Joshua fight right away !

        I would advise him to do that bc of everything stated bc Usyk could lose to any top HW why chance it .
        That would be ****** to go straight after Joshua. He needs 3 fights to adjust to HW. IMO Bellew -> Whyte -> Breazeale (tune up fight before Joshua) . Joshua vs Usyk will happen in 2 years after the Joshua vs Wilder saga in 2019.

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        • Jubei
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          #34
          There is no way either Joshua or Wilder win a decision vs Usyk, question is can they hit him often enough and hard enough to knock him out? Usyk is durable, extremely quick and has very good defense.

          I will never pick against Usyk and its funny how some of the hardcore Joshua/Wilder fans are already deflecting and acting like Usyk is some little dude like Joy Jones Jr or whoever. Usyk will move to Heavyweight, will start fighting at 220 and eventually 225/230, thats way more than Wilder and Usyk is strong like an ox.

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            #35
            Originally posted by juggernaut666
            Who has Wilder pummeled in title fights outside inactive Stiverne ?
            his ko ratio would say pretty much everyone....

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              #36
              Originally posted by Jubei
              There is no way either Joshua or Wilder win a decision vs Usyk, question is can they hit him often enough and hard enough to knock him out? Usyk is durable, extremely quick and has very good defense.

              I will never pick against Usyk and its funny how some of the hardcore Joshua/Wilder fans are already deflecting and acting like Usyk is some little dude like Joy Jones Jr or whoever. Usyk will move to Heavyweight, will start fighting at 220 and eventually 225/230, thats way more than Wilder and Usyk is strong like an ox.
              Usyk will weigh 220 pounds at HW not more. Believe me.230 would slow him heavily down and he is already a fully grown man at 31. He usually walks at 210-215 and adding 15-20 more pounds is ******.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Andrij
                That would be ****** to go straight after Joshua. He needs 3 fights to adjust to HW. IMO Bellew -> Whyte -> Breazeale (tune up fight before Joshua) . Joshua vs Usyk will happen in 2 years after the Joshua vs Wilder saga in 2019.
                He doesn't need to adjust to HW bc he hs the am experience and fights at 215 anyway at CW .

                No one is going to help him adjust to HW , hes either going to beat Joshua or not !

                Taking any other fight at HW is risking the payday hes looking for ,if hes guaranteed a title fight hes going to take it .

                Unlike dummy Wilder who deserves to be K.O'd for declining one . lol

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by allen23
                  his ko ratio would say pretty much everyone....
                  Thats the problem you say Usyk will get pummeled , yet you answer with a Wilder K.O ratio but fail to mention he struggled in almost all those title fights , yet im to believe he PUMMELS Usyk who wont win rnds even though far less skilled guys have ?


                  Usyk also has 11 stoppages in 15 fights ,im pretty sure he wasn't pummling them though .

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                  • Andrij
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by juggernaut666
                    He doesn't need to adjust to HW bc he hs the am experience and fights at 215 anyway at CW .

                    No one is going to help him adjust to HW , hes either going to beat Joshua or not !

                    Taking any other fight at HW is risking the payday hes looking for ,if hes guaranteed a title fight hes going to take it .

                    Unlike dummy Wilder who deserves to be K.O'd for declining one . lol
                    Joshua´s next 3 fights : Povetkin -> Wilder -> Wilder .

                    Usyk will have to fight 2-3 times at HW before facing Joshua in 2020.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by VatoMulatto
                      Generally speaking, size does matter.
                      Usyk is 6ft. 3in.! He could easily add 15lbs. of lean muscle in 6 months or less! Tyson was only 5ft. 10in., and Hoylfield was 6ft. 1in.!

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