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  • jaded
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    #101
    Originally posted by juggernaut666
    As stated , he defeated an inexperienced Joyce .

    Who has Usyk actually knocked out ever ?


    You guys are going to turn him into Superman thats a FACT on here but he has ZERO pro HW wins against any what would be CURRENT HW TOP guys .


    Gassiev is far from a technical boxer and has a short reach , Usyk is not going to have such an easy time at HW , hes not having an easy time at CW despite out boxing guys , he had a tough Huck fight a SHOT Huck and Hunter stood his ground ,sqeeked by Breidas .
    He has 11 KO's in 15 fights.

    Last edited by jaded; 07-23-2018, 03:16 PM.

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    • juggernaut666
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      #102
      Originally posted by jaded
      He has 11 KO's in 15 fights.

      He has no knock outs against top guys .


      Huck is not top fighter now .


      Wilder has 39 knock outs ...ONE being a top guy .
      However theres a clear difference on who actually hits hard .

      Usyk is arm puncher !
      Last edited by juggernaut666; 07-23-2018, 03:32 PM.

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      • jaded
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        #103
        Originally posted by juggernaut666
        He has no knock outs against top guys .


        Huck is not top fighter now .


        Wilder has 39 knock outs ...ONE being a top guy .
        However theres a clear difference on who actually hits hard .

        Usyk is arm puncher !
        You didn't watch that video I posted. Clearly the guy can ****...he just choose to box Saturday and did a brilliant job of it. He dosn't need a KO like Wider does to win anyways because he can box...he's multidimensional. Joshua and Wilder will avoid him until the day he becomes a mandatory.

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        • BillyBoxing
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          #104
          Originally posted by juggernaut666
          Wilder can and HAS been outboxed so Usyk could do it but he gets knocked out in all likelyhood at some point bc Wilder wont be worrying about anything hard coming back at him and has now fought a few southpaws .


          Usyk wont do anything to Joshua .
          Usyk would make Wilder and Joshua look very bad.

          He would probably get koed in the process, but the movements, speed and skills would make them look like amateurs.

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          • Banderivets
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            #105
            Loving all the pockets of hate that Usyk is creating now...very much like what Loma has done. Sure sign of success.

            The man clears out arguably the most stacked division in boxing yet some still doubt him.

            Usyk is a legit 6'3" putting him right up there in the division outside of Wilder, Fury and AJ. He walks around 220lb, you can see on his pre-camp instagram post. I bet the same guys who say that he is too small are the one's saying any of the old timers that were 210lb in their prime would wipe all the post Lennox guys off the face of the earth.

            He shown against Joe Joyce in WSB that 6'6" he can deal with and Joe is a big boy on top of that height. So height/size won't be an issue.

            Now some knock his power....Sure he is an arm puncher but so what? Since when do you have to punch like Wlad, AJ and Wilder to be a HW Champ?

            Usyk has the potential to absolutely gas these guys silly with his movement. When say AJ (not saying this will happen) is absolutely gasping for air, do you think it takes a Wlad right hand to put him down?

            I didn't know that you needed A power to win boxing matches...

            So ****** ****ing argument that...If you don't think he has enough power to keep them honest you don't know much about this game.

            His punch resistance? I can almost guarantee his punch resistance is better than Wlad's, Wilder's and AJ's...

            And how can you even bring up the chin argument? When has he ever been down and shown weakness? And even if he has, how many times we seen AJ and Wilder hurt? How many times have we seen Wlad on the floor?

            Bottom line is that the man has the size to compete at HW and the best skill set north of 175. So why on earth are people doubting what he could do at HW?

            And you lot call yourself boxing fans....
            Last edited by Banderivets; 07-23-2018, 04:51 PM.

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            • juggernaut666
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              #106
              Originally posted by BillyBoxing
              Usyk would make Wilder and Joshua look very bad.

              He would probably get koed in the process, but the movements, speed and skills would make them look like amateurs.
              Then why did he squeak by Briedas ,and have a few competitive fights with no one remotely as dangerous as those guys ?

              Most of his fights are competitive at CW so no .


              Theres ZERO showings he outboxes and doesn't get hurt by some HW's let alone Joshua .

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                #107
                Originally posted by jaded
                You didn't watch that video I posted. Clearly the guy can ****...he just choose to box Saturday and did a brilliant job of it. He dosn't need a KO like Wider does to win anyways because he can box...he's multidimensional. Joshua and Wilder will avoid him until the day he becomes a mandatory.
                Just NO ! lol

                Excellent boxer but he is nowhere near a power puncher in his OWN CW class certainly wont be at HW . !


                " Joshua and Wilder will avoid him until the day he becomes a mandatory. "
                Last edited by juggernaut666; 07-23-2018, 05:06 PM.

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                • MASTERBX
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                  #108
                  "Usick" will never get in the ring with Wilder! He's more suitable for that euro level competition.

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                  • u122564
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                    #109
                    at 6'3" hes only an inch shorter than Ortiz and same height as povetkin (if the boxrec stats are accurate). his skillset and speed will be more pronounced at HW as well as the guys in HW are slower. only issue will be if he can handle the HW power as well as the bigger HW leaning on him and pushing him around. Usyk is strong though, he rarely is man handled in the ring. would be interesting to see him go up.

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                    • Bronx2245
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by cally93
                      Very good point it’s a fascinating fight,,,I mean I think Usyk outboxes all of them, the question is has he got enough power to keep them off/honest and what happens when they land a bomb on him? (Especially late)

                      If he can overcome them points then the world’s really his oyster.
                      I don't know if he'll become champion, but I think it's worth the risk, and it's been done many times before: Frazier, Spinks, Tyson, RJJ, Holyfield, and Moorer, just to name a few! Cruiserweight was not recognized until the 80s!

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