Comments Thread For: Hamed: Usyk Gives Joshua a Run For His Money, Wilder Too!

[juggernaut666]

Sure let’s chat about it

1) Popular to contrary belief Ortiz is younger than Klitschko. He is 39. Go look it up I don’t have the time to educate you (hint: I did months ago)

2) Klitschko has been fighting journeymen circuit fighters for years yet if you take the dear Lord AJ name in vain over his prized wheel chair win look out here comes the wrath of almighty God!

3) Wilder was hurt and stunned, AJ was flattened and gassed by a 41 fighter past his prime

4) False: Klitschko hasn’t knocked out anyone of substance for a number of years and he wouldn’t knock out Wilder so i’ll Stop you right there

5) Ortiz THE 39 YEAR OLD (yes we are back to that) was and is avoided like the plague by ANYONE in the top 10. Those are facts

Multiple sources even family members on twitter have stated Ortiz is close to 50 .

Rick Glaser says hes 48 ...i'll go with that .

Wilder didnt even believe he was in his 30's after his win in a post fight speech !

I dont care im supposedly older than Ortiz and i know thats a joke . lol


If Ortiz was avoided why did Whyte challenge him in 2016 and Hearn willing to give him a contract to fight Joshua after Pulev ?



Klitchko is by far better then Wilder ,it would be a waste of time explaining why ! lol

[Bronx2245]

Stop right there ! Tyson had more power than skills. Holyfield was beast and most likely was juicing . Roy Jones fought one of the worst haveyweights ever

You don't like those 3, how about Joe Frazier, Michael Moorer, and Michael Spinks? There's no excuse for Usyk and Gassiev to remain @ Cruiserweight! Please remember that the division wasn't even created until the 80s!

[Noelanthony]

Don't know in what world Usyk is as athletic as Wilder.... just saying. He is not as fast as Wilder too. Wilder is faster, more athletic, longer, taller, more power.

Usyk is miles more technical, better lateral movement, better head movement.

On work rate, he does not have a better one than Wilder. Look at his punch stats and compare to how many punches Wilder throws per round. Wilder is one of the most active heavyweights, probably 2nd or 3rd to Miller and AJ. I think Miller is #1.

How also do you define ring IQ? Wilder gets the job done all the time - same as Usyk. Wilder probably faster most times.

If you look up power in the English dictionary you may just see Wilders face. He epitomises the word. As for ring IQ his face is no where to be found. Clumsiness he may get a look in. Wilder is exactly what it says on the tin wild. He is regularly behind I now all his fights regardless of the Calibre of opponent but his power comes to his rescue. Surely that has nothing to do with ring IQ?

[juggernaut666]

If you look up power in the English dictionary you may just see Wilders face. He epitomises the word. As for ring IQ his face is no where to be found. Clumsiness he may get a look in. Wilder is exactly what it says on the tin wild. He is regularly behind I now all his fights regardless of the Calibre of opponent but his power comes to his rescue. Surely that has nothing to do with ring IQ?

Wilder has very good ring IQ .

Without it he wouldn't be undefeated bc his lack to put everything together skillwise .

Hes very good at slowly gauging distance and why he gives up rounds .


However this wont work so well against same size , great skilled fighters bc he will be forced to go for a K.O if way behind which will leave openings....

Of course thats IF we get correct scoring , some of his fights like Ortiz and Washington were a joke before Wilder K.O wins . lol

[Madison Boxing]

ive been saying for a long time usyk can beat them two before it started getting fashionable. you guys act like hes a ****ing midget, hes 6ft 3 with a solid build. is he really much smaller than ortiz?

[cally93]

You don't have to be 6'5" 250 to win! Tyson, Roy Jones Jr., and Holyfield have proven that! Skills pay the bills!

Agreed! Other than AJ, Wilder or a fully fit Tyson Fury i’d Pick Usyk to beat the majority of the heavyweights, I just think those three are too big for him.

[Bronx2245]

Agreed! Other than AJ, Wilder or a fully fit Tyson Fury i’d Pick Usyk to beat the majority of the heavyweights, I just think those three are too big for him.

Just remember that Wilder weighed in @ 214 3/4lbs. and beat Ortiz!

[asotgod123]

Anybody who says Wilder doesn't have skills isn't watching the fights lol I just think his mind fails him a lot in the ring due to emotion or something. He "falls asleep" a lot in the middle of rounds and takes shots he shouldn't. However, when he snaps out of it, he'll throw a shot that HWs aren't supposed to be able to do in today's era. (Prime example is the counter right off the back foot, that came in response to Ortiz's triple jab to put it away)

That's why he's dangerous. You can't figure out when the shots will come. It's almost like he's in the middle of a round and then a lightbulb goes off to do the thing Breland taught him lol he's a very strange case study imo.

Well said! Could not have stated it any better.

[cally93]

Just remember that Wilder weighed in @ 214 3/4lbs. and beat Ortiz!

Very good point it’s a fascinating fight,,,I mean I think Usyk outboxes all of them, the question is has he got enough power to keep them off/honest and what happens when they land a bomb on him? (Especially late)

If he can overcome them points then the world’s really his oyster.

[Oshio]

You guys are joking. Usyk shouldn't contemplate fighting any of the A-list HWs. He would regret it. AJ, Wilder, Povetkin, Whyte Parker, Takam, he shouldn't