The idea that one has to fight in Vegas to validate their career is BS

[Sid-Knee]

So who gave you that idea? Some posters here dissing Joshua for turning down 50 mil...!!!??? Because I dont see posters here saying that you have to fight in Vegas/America to validate your career.

If you don't see posters saying you have to fight in America to validate your career then you're completely blind.

[Sid-Knee]

I understand your point-it's who you beat not where you beat them. I agree. However, winning a big fight in the fight capital of the world has extra meaning, like say winning the title in the top soccer league in Europe as opposed to the MLS cup in the US.

But Joshua would still be fighting the same fighter in Wilder regardless of where it's held. Whereas with the football match you're comparing 2 completely different levels. So of course the European cup is much bigger than the MSL cup, regardless of where it's held. So that was a **** comparison that made no sense.

[Scipio2009]

Does a win count for more depending on the location? Or is it the guy you beat more important?

The same people saying you have to win in vegas to be a star will tell you that belts dont matter, but keep telling everyone how many titles their favorite fighter has won.

Where a fighter get his win is irrelevant. Boxing is a world wide sport.

Las Vegas is the biggest and brightest stage that boxing has to offer.

No different than any kid dribbling a basketball wanting to play in the NBA, or a kid playing baseball wanting to be in the world series, or the kid that's good playing youth soccer wanting to one day play in the World Cup.

Who wouldn't want to fight on boxing's biggest stage?

[N/A]

so your saying Vegas isn’t always the most money contradicting your previous statement.

Please show me where I said Vegas is always the most money for any fight at any level. Never said that. Vegas is where the biggest fights can make the most money.

[killakali]

Please show me where I said Vegas is always the most money for any fight at any level. Never said that. Vegas is where the biggest fights can make the most money.

u said the biggest fights make the most money in Vegas. Wilders biggest fight wasn’t in Vegas. His biggest purse wasn’t in Vegas either. Neither was Joshua Klitschko.

[SAINTSTEVE]

I made note of the fact that Usky fought in Russia despite the fact that he didn't want to, and there was nothing anyone in that country could do to stop him from winning ha!
But you know it's not that Joshua is insecure, he is just doing it for the fans. He is willing to take less money for the fans, just not less than the lion's share!

[The Big Dunn]

But Joshua would still be fighting the same fighter in Wilder regardless of where it's held. Whereas with the football match you're comparing 2 completely different levels. So of course the European cup is much bigger than the MSL cup, regardless of where it's held. So that was a **** comparison that made no sense.

Ok fair point. What I was trying to convey is playing soccer the Rose Bowl isn't seen the same way as playing in Azteca , Camp Nou or Wembley. The difference is when you fight in Vegas it like performing on Broadway rather than off Broadway. Or performing Or playing basketball at MSG and not the Barclays.

If AJ wants to just fight in England that is fine. He will be the HWT Clazaghe or Ottke.

Cool, if that is what you want to be.

[Clegg]

You talking about traveling in general or Vegas in particular?

The 2 main things in judging a fighter is who you beat and how you beat them. Location matters, I think Usyk deserves some extra credit for going to his opponent's countries but I don't rate him any higher because of it. I dislike when a boxer won't take a fight because of location or when he stays at home and gets officials who favour him. If AJ refused to fight in US and Wilder refused to fight in UK I'd criticise both, same for any 2 boxers in that situation.

For Vegas, it does seem a lot of boxers see it as the pinnacle, a sign that you've fought under the brightest lights of all and reached a certain status along all the greats who fought there. I remember Froch retired saying only a Vegas fight motivated him at that point and it couldn't be done. Most fighters want to fight there at some point I'd guess. But as a fan no I don't rate guys higher because of it.

[j0zef]

You are correct. Location doesn't matter, it's the quality of the win that is important.

[Zn1]

Why would you turn down $50 million to fight in Vegas, if it was more than you could get anywhere else?

This is prizefighting is it not?

because business isn't handled by throwing numbers around with no details given, yet they actually expected Joshua just to sign a non-existent contract ... wtf?

if this was any other situation we'd all be laughing at the offer but because it's a Brit turning down an American it's big news (to you idiots)

Wilder's biggest payday is 2.1mil and he turned down a guaranteed 15mil

why not laugh at that?

Joshua doesn't need Wilder, he's already unified the division AND sells out stadiums whereas Wilder only has a WBC belt vacated by Vitali Klitschko and won by Bermane Stiverne against Chris Arreola, a ****ing bum. There's no legitimacy to his claim of champion at all.