Comments Thread For: Luis Ortiz: Deontay Wilder Would Knock Joshua Out in 3 Rounds!

[champion4ever]

Eddie was going to do the fight in Oct or Nov but Wilder walked away because Hearn hadn't quite got round to getting an exact date and venue. So no, that isn't a lie. If so, prove it?


Barry Hearn said wait for 12 months or so because it would make more MONEY down the road than it would do now.

Then all Eddie Hearn had to do was to put it in the new contract he sent.

Now as far as Barry Hearn goes, what he said was a bold face lie. The reason why he didn't want to put his guy in there to fight Deontay Wilder because he knows what I know, what Evander Holyfield knows, what Joseph Parker and his trainer knows, what Daniel Dubois knows, what Tyson Fury knows, what Cris Arreola knows, what Luis Ortiz knows and what most boxing fans know outside of Great Britain knows is that "The Bronze Bomber" would knock Anthony Joshua the fuck out so he is trying to preserve his cash cow

Both of these guys are snake oil salesmen. Now I see where Eddie gets his lying from

[Sid-Knee]

You are absolutely shameless. If Joshua-Povetkin is going to be on the DAZN app that means people will have to pay to view it.

Are there any lengths you will not go to in order to defend Hearn?

Keep drinking that Koolaid.

Yeah, but Hearn doesn't plan on making his money on that fight in the US. All the money will come from the UK. With Wilder it's different because he's American and will actually make money in the US with Wilder.

So how is that shameful?

What are these lies?

[Sid-Knee]

Then all Eddie Hearn had to do was to put it in the new contract he sent.

Now as far as Barry Hearn goes, what he said was a bold face lie. The reason why he didn't want to put his guy in there to fight Deontay Wilder because he knows what I know, what Evander Holyfield knows, what Joseph Parker and his trainer knows, what Daniel Dubois knows, what Tyson Fury knows, what Cris Arreola knows, what Luis Ortiz knows and what most boxing fans know outside of Great Britain knows is that "The Bronze Bomber" would knock Anthony Joshua the fuck out so he is trying to preserve his cash cow

Both of these guys are snake oil salesmen. Now I see where Eddie gets his lying from

So you made a claim that Barry Hearn said something but you can't prove it's true?

The only ones telling lies and selling bull**** are you scummy Americans. I asked for all these lies Eddie has supposedly said and you come up with NOTHING!!

You're a clown.

[Sid-Knee]

These dip****s need to learn the definition of the word irony. It's hilarious reading their complete nonsense. They call someone a liar but can't give any examples, but come out with nothing but lies themselves.

Americans are crazy.

[Laligalaliga]

Fan girl? Your the one with the name that reminds people of Lady Gaga when they see it undisputed dummy!!! LOL!!!!!!

am done with you man....
Boxing is not your thing.
I just told you your champ fought over 80% of either unranked opponents or opponents ranked 100+ and you pretended you didn't see it.
I do not have any problem with wilder, he is a good warrior but he think he is bigger than what he is at the moment.
You can't claim to be the people's champ, demanding 50/50 while after 7 defenses, no single unification. That's pathetic, its a sign of a padded local champ.
Am still amazed that the biggest warrior in America has never been on Ppv and still fighting for chumps, but quick to see another warrior been milked by a white guy.
I find it amusing and hypocritical.
For the records, we still have plenty of journeymen and 100+ ranked warriors for wilder to fight. Mind you his stock is depreciating while fight D- opponents.

[lfc19titles]

Ok let me ask you this where you did you get that Joshua said before receiving the $50 Million offer that the fight had to happen in the U.K? When? Show it to me. Send me a link.

He said that after they rejected the $50 Million offer. Hearn stated that he wanted the first fight to be in the U.K. Before then, they never had any discussions on the venue. The $50 Million offer was to always take place in the US in late Fall of 2018 in either Las Vegas or New York.

Call me a liar or not but this whole scam was orchestrated by Matchroom boxing and Team Joshua. Had matchroom boxing negotiated in good faith from the start by not low-balling Wilder with a 12.5m Flat-fee with no guarantee, percentage of the gate or ppv then the fight would have commenced this year in 2018.

However, they were deliberately pricing themselves out in reverse into believing that Wilder wouldn't accept the offer which he would have. In addition, all Joshua had to do was to keep his mouth shut or just accept the $50 Million contract he requested and the fight would still be on for this year.

Lastly, after Wilder agreed to all their terms, Eddie Hearn came out and said that the fight couldn't take place in September due to Canelo/GGG and also that Joshua would need at least twelve weeks of training camp in order to get himself into fighting shape for a fight of this magnitude. Both of these were big lies by the way because Povetkin is fighting at Wembley in September and Joshua is training on a typical 8 week training camp. LOL!

If Eddie Hearn really wanted this fight all his company had to do was to put the date and the venue and rematch clause in the contract then the fight would be on for this year too. Yet they were bluffing along and each time Team Wilder called them on their bluff the more they stalled the negotiations.

They weren't man enough to admit that they wanted no parts of "The Bronze Bomber" this year because Joshua isn't ready. That is why they are challenging Alexander Povetkin.

Damn son get wilders nuts out of your mouth if only he found his pen and and sign

Too bad he lost his balls to do that , just like now joshua has signed and is ready, it’s the b side wilder being a coward again. The most difficult b side in history

I will end this with exposing wilders lies, the rest you can google but I see you have too much of a fan boy symptom to see it

Wilder claimed to not go to the uk due to a restraining order put on by Joshua LOL and then Surprisingly offered the fight on USA. In the uk you must go to court to get a restraining order

Will Was exposed as a liar and a fraud

Stop believing the suckers who refused to sign, one part in Joshua signed all wilder had to do was find his pen and the fight would be on now

Wilders lies were exposed he has no credibility left

[Redgloveman]

What hypothetically, the Povetkin fight has a massive positive impact, and the fight now becomes worth $200m in the UK. Wilder is left with a $15m cheque with no upside. Does that sound like a smart move?

Firstly, that is not going to happen; it makes no commercial sense whatsoever.

Secondly, if in some insane hypothetical universe that were to happen then, by beating Joshua Wilder would make himself king of the most lucrative division on earth, even if he ONLY made a career high payday of $15m for that particular fight. You have to take risks in business if you want the rewards.

Alternatively he can let Joshua slip away, but in that case he doesn't have the right to say "my team have done all they can" etc.

[Redgloveman]

If Eddie and AJ were truly looking to make the fight, why not offer Wilder a split? Wilder will NEVER sign off for a fight with AJ without a split. You can write that down. Does not matter what Wilder or AJ make right now - what matters is what they could make together. Since you are an AJ fan, ask Eddie and AJ to honor their own words too. They have 2 options:

1. Give Wilder any % provided AJ takes that in the rematch when Wilder whoops him (easy you will think but not for Eddie).

2. Give Wilder a reasonable and respectable split (60/40 or 55/45 - nothing less) with winner taking the greater split in the rematch.

Lastly, rematch without conditions for both or no one gets a rematch.

In a fight potentially worth over $100 mil, AJ wants to get over $80 mil. Who does he think he is?

First of all, I'm not an AJ fan - I've been critical of both sides. It goes to show how little sensible discussion actually goes on about this fight that by saying anything that criticises either AJ or Wilder their fangirls immediately assume you're a fan of the other one.

You say that Wilder will NEVER accept a flat fee despite the fact that he verbally agreed a flat fee of $15m?

You're assuming that the fight is worth $100m which is unlikely.

I agree, I think Wilder should definitely get a split rather than a flat fee, doesn't mean that Wilder shouldn't just take the flat fee anyway though. If he wins (which I suspect he will) the upside will be enormous and well worth ONLY getting a career high $15m

[Tom Cruise]

Since Malik Scott, the only fighter Wilder has stopped inside 3 rounds is a ludicrously out of shape Bermaine Stiverne.

Bearing in mind that’s a run that includes Jason Gavern and Eric Molina.

Forgive me if I think Mr. Ortiz may be over exaggerating just a little.

[juggernaut666]

Since Malik Scott, the only fighter Wilder has stopped inside 3 rounds is a ludicrously out of shape Bermaine Stiverne.

Bearing in mind that’s a run that includes Jason Gavern and Eric Molina.

Forgive me if I think Mr. Ortiz may be over exaggerating just a little.

Come on now , Boxing Scene logic suggests Wilder wins in the first 2 minutes of round 1 .

Ortiz is being generous here and staying neutral !